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Comment Re:Google and government jet fuel. (Score 1) 53

It's a shame that guy's not logged in, and that I don't have mod points, it was a good comment, but this was incorrect:

We've have one of the most unjust economic systems in over a hundred years no thanks to enablers such as yourself. And you know what eventually happened? See the 1930s, bub.

Actually, after WWI it was much worse.The 1920s looked like now, only worse. Citation:

On the day before the coal strike was due to begin, the Attorney-General secured from a Federal judge in Indianapolis an order enjoining the leaders of the strike from doing anything whatever to further it. He did this under the provisions of a food-and-fuel-control Act which forbade restriction of coal production during the war. In actual fact the war was not only over, it had been over for nearly a year: but legally it was not over-the Peace Treaty still languished in the Senate. This food-and-fuel-control law, in further actual fact, had been passed by the Senate after Senator Husting had explicitly declared that he was "authorized by the Secretary of Labor, Mr. Wilson, to say that the Administration does not construe this bill as prohibiting strikes and peaceful picketing and will not so construe it." But Mr. Palmer either had never heard of this assurance or cared nothing about it or decided that unforeseen conditions had arisen. He got his injunction, and the coal strike was doomed, although the next day something like four hundred thousand coal miners, now leaderless by decree of the Federal Government, walked out of the mines.

The public knew nothing of the broken pledge, of course; it would have been a bold newspaper proprietor who would have published Senator Husting's statement, even had he known about it. It took genuine courage for a paper even to say, as did the New York World at that time, that there was "no Bolshevist menace in the United States and no I. W. W. menace that an ordinarily capable police force is not competent to deal with." The press applauded the injunction as it had applauded Calvin Coolidge. The Fighting Quaker took heart. His next move was to direct a series of raids in which Communist leaders were rounded up for deportation to Russia, via Finland, on the ship Buford, jocosely known as the "Soviet Ark." Again there was enthusiasm-and apparently there was little concern over the right of the Administration to tear from their families men who had as yet committed no crime. Mr. Palmer decided to give the American public more of the same; and thereupon he carried through a new series of raids which set a new record in American history for executive transgression of individual constitutional rights.

Under the drastic war-time Sedition Act, the Secretary of Labor had the power to deport aliens who were anarchists, or believed in or advocated the overthrow of the government by violence, or were affiliated with any organization that so believed or advocated. Mr. Palmer now decided to "cooperate" with the Secretary of Labor by rounding up the alien membership of the Communist party for wholesale deportation. His under-cover agents had already worked their way into the organization; one of them, indeed, was said to have become a leader in his district (which raised the philosophical question whether government agents in such positions would have imperiled their jobs by counseling moderation among the comrades).

In scores of cities all over the United States, when the Communists were simultaneously meeting at their various headquarters on New Year's Day of 1920, Mr. Palmer's agents and police and voluntary aides fell upon them-fell upon everybody, in fact, who was in the hall, regardless of whether he was a Communist or not (how could one tell?)-and bundled them off to jail, with or without warrant. Every conceivable bit of evidence-literature, membership lists, books, papers, pictures on the wall, everything-was seized. On this and succeeding nights other Communists and suspected Communists were seized in their homes. Over six thousand men were arrested in all, and thrust summarily behind the bars for days or weeks-often without any chance to learn what was the explicit charge against them. At least one American citizen, not a Communist, was jailed for days through some mistake-probably a confusion over names-and barely escaped deportation. In Detroit, over a hundred men were herded into a bull-pen measuring twenty-four by thirty feet and kept there for a week under conditions which the mayor of the city called intolerable. In Hartford, while the suspects were in jail the authorities took the further precaution of arresting and incarcerating all visitors who came to see them, a friendly call being regarded as prima facie evidence of affiliation with the Communist party.

Ultimately a considerable proportion of the prisoners were released for want of sufficient evidence that they were Communists. Ultimately, too, it was divulged that in the whole country-wide raid upon these dangerous men-supposedly armed to the teeth-exactly three pistols were found, and no explosives at all. But at the time the newspapers were full of reports from Mr. Palmer's office that new evidence of a gigantic plot against the safety of the country had been unearthed; and although the steel strike was failing, the coal strike was failing, and any danger of a socialistic regime, to say nothing of a revolution, was daily fading, nevertheless to the great mass of the American people the Bolshevist bogey became more terrifying than ever.

Mr. Palmer was in full cry. In public statements he was reminding the twenty million owners of Liberty bonds and the nine million farm-owners and the eleven million owners of savings accounts, that the Reds proposed to take away all they had. He was distributing boiler-plate propaganda to the press, containing pictures of horrid-looking Bolsheviks with bristling beards, and asking if such as these should rule over America. Politicians were quoting the suggestion of Guy Empey that the proper implements for dealing with the Reds could be "found in any hardware store," or proclaiming, "My motto for the Reds is S. 0. S.-ship or shoot. I believe we should place them all on a ship of stone, with sails of lead, and that their first stopping-place should be hell." College graduates were calling for the dismissal of professors suspected of radicalism; school-teachers were being made to sign oaths of allegiance; business men with unorthodox political or economic ideas were learning to hold their tongues if they wanted to hold their jobs. Hysteria had reached its height.

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Nor did it quickly subside. For the professional super-patriots (and assorted special propagandists disguised as super-patriots) had only begun to fight. Innumerable patriotic societies had sprung up, each with its executive secretary, and executive secretaries must live, and therefore must conjure up new and ever greater menaces. Innumerable other gentlemen now discovered that they could defeat whatever they wanted to defeat by tarring it conspicuously the Bolshevist brush. Big-navy men, believers in compulsory military service, drys, anti-cigarette campaigners, anti-evolution Fundamentalists, defenders of the moral order, book censors, Jew-haters, Negro-haters, landlords, manufacturers, utility executives, upholders of every sort of cause, good, bad, and indifferent, all wrapped themselves in the Old Glory and the mantle of the Founding Fathers and allied their opponents with Lenin. The open shop, for example, became the "American plan." For years a pestilence- of speakers and writers continued to afflict the country with of "sinister and subversive agitators." Elderly ladies in ornate drawing-rooms heard from executive that the agents of the government had unearthed radical conspiracies too fiendish to be divulged before the proper time. Their husbands were told at luncheon the clubs that the colleges were honeycombed with Bolshevism. A cloud of suspicion hung in the air, and intolerance became an American virtue.

Is William J. Burns put the number of resident Communists at 422,000, and S. Stanwood Menken of the National Security League made it 600,000-figures at least ten times as large as those of Professor Watkins. Dwight Braman, president of the Allied Patriotic Societies, told Governor Smith of New York that the Reds were holding 10,000 meetings in the country every week and that 350 radical newspapers had been established in the preceding six months.

But not only the Communists were dangerous; they had, made well-disguised or unwitting allies in more respect circles The Russian Famine Fund Committee, according to Ralph Easley of the National Civic Federation, included sixty pronounced Bolshevist sympathizers. Frederick J. Libby of the National Council for the Reduction of Armament by one of the loudest of the super-patriots to be a Communist educated in Russia who visited Russia for instructions (although as a matter of fact the pacifist church man had never been in Russia, had no affiliations with Russians and had on his board only American citizens) The Nation, The New Republic, and The Freeman were classed as revolutionary" by the executive secretary of the American Defense Society. Even The Survey was denounced by the writers of the Lusk Report as having "the endorsement of revolutionary groups." Ralph Easley pointed with alarm to the National League of Women Voters, the Federal Council of Churches, and the Foreign Policy Association. There was hardly a liberal civic organization in the land at the time at which these protectors of the nation did not bid the citizenry to shudder. Even the National Information Bureau which investigated charities and was headed by no pillar of New York respectability than Robert W. DeForest, it was claimed, must be too busy to pay attention to what was going on; with him were people like Rabbi Wise and Norman Thomas and Oswald Villard and Jane Addams and Scott Nearing and Paul U. Kellogg, many of whom were tainted by radical associations.

There was danger lurking in the theater and the movies. The Moscow Art Theater, the Chauve Souris, and Fyodor Chaliapin were viewed by Mr. Braman of the Allied Patriotic Societies as propagandizing agencies of the Soviets; and according to Mr. Whitney of the American Defense Society, not only Norma Talmadge but-yes-Charlie Chaplin and Will Rogers were mentioned in "Communist files."

Books, too, must be carefully scanned for the all-pervasive evil. Miss Hermine Schwed, speaking for the Better America Federation, a band of California patriots, disapproved of Main Street because it "created a distaste for the conventional good life of the American," and called and called John Dewey and James Harvey Robinson "most dangerous to young people." And as for the schools and colleges. here the danger was more insidious and far-reaching still. According to Mr. Whitney, Professors Felix Frankfurter and Zacharia Choice Chafee (sic) of Harvard and Frederick Wells Williams and Max Solomon Mandell of Yale were "too wise not to know that their words, publicly uttered and even used in classrooms, are, to put it conservatively, decidedly encouraging to the Communists." The schools must be firmly taken in hand: text-books must be combed for slights to heroes of American history, none but conservative speakers must be allowed within the precincts of school or college, and courses teaching reverence for the Constitution must be universal and compulsory.

The effect of these admonitions was oppressive. The fear of the radicals was accompanied and followed by a fear of being thought radical. If you wanted to get on in business, to be received in the best circles of Gopher Prairie or Middletown, you must appear to conform. Any deviation from the opinions of Judge Gary and Mr. Palmer was viewed askance. A liberal journalist, visiting a formerly outspoken Hoosier in his office, was not permitted to talk politics until his frightened host had closed and locked the door and closed the window (which gave on an air shaft perhaps fifty feet wide, with offices on the other side where there might be ears to hear the words of heresy). Said a former resident of a Middle Western city, returning to it after a long absence: "These people are all afraid of something. What is it?" The authors of Middletown quoted a lonely political dissenter forced into conformity by the iron pressure of public opinion as saying, bitterly, "I just run away from it all to my books." He dared not utter his economic opinions openly; to deviate ever so little from those of the Legion and the Rotary Club would be to brand himself as a Bolshevist.

"America," wrote Katharine Fullerton Gerould in Harper's Magazine as late as 1922 "is no longer a free country, in the old sense; and liberty is, increasingly, a mere rhetorical figure. . . . No thinking citizen, I venture to say, can express in freedom more than a part of his honest convictions. I do not of course refer to convictions that are frankly criminal. I do mean that everywhere, on every hand, free speech is choked off in one direction or another. The only way in which an American citizen who is really interested in all the social and political problems of his country can preserve any freedom of expression, is to choose the mob that is most sympathetic to him, and abide under the shadow of that mob."

Sentiments such as these were expressed so frequently and so vehemently in later years that it is astonishing to recall that in 1922 it required some temerity to put them in print. When Mrs. Gerould's article was published, hundreds of letters poured into the Harper's office and into her house-letters denouncing her in scurrilous terms as subversive and a Bolshevist, letters rejoicing that at last some one had stood up and told the truth. To such a point had the country been carried by the shoutings of the super-patriots.

Frederick Lewis Allen, Only Yesterday

I have a forty year old copy that was required reading in an undergrad general studies history class I took at SIU back then.

Comment Re:Google and government jet fuel. (Score 1) 53

My point is that the answer to government created problems is not more government.

Indeed, the answer to government-created problems is better government, not more government or less government. If your legislators are of the opinion that government is always the problem, it will be. Just don't vote for those candidates. Since you seem to be a guy who wants small government, I'm guessing you're part of why the politicians in office are governing badly.

Comment Re:Would probably be found (Score 1) 576

I keep seeing this meme more and more, and it's pure bullshit. I asked for a link once, the guy sent me to a page of stuff people got in trouble for and none of them were anything that the average person is likely to do! Illegally importing foods for a restaraunt, illegally owning dangerous animals, posession of feathers from endangered birds, stuff like that. Not normal people problems, rich people problems and weird people problems.

My day starts off with coffee and TV, drive to work, walk around the block on break, back to work, drive home for lunch stopping for beer for the evening, home for lunch, back to work, walk around the block on afternoon break, work, drive home, turn on the TV and open a beer. Get on slashdot, write in the book I'm working on, maybe walk down the street to a bar later.

Now tell me, besides the joint I lit when I got home from work, what law have I broken? Sure, a dishonest cop can pull you over and pin any kind of bullshit he wants on you (Monte Python parodied this effectively 40 years ago: "whatever did I give the Missus??" after the planted "dope" turns out to be a sandwich).

There's no possible way a NORMAL person is committing three Federal felonies a day, and there's nowhere you can point to back up that really stupid paranoid meme.

You know those little plastic frames that auto dealers put around your license plate, with the dealer's name on it? Well, as it turns out, where I live it is illegal to obscure any part of your license plate, which means that I was breaking the law by having that plastic frame overlap my plate along the edges and corners. It gave the state trooper probable cause to stop me. At least he didn't give me a ticket.

It would have cost you $40 if he had, not a stint in a federal prison. If you count jaywalking maybe the average does break the law three times a day, but most laws are minor, like traffic tickets. Nothing to be paranoid about.

Comment Re:Google and government jet fuel. (Score 1) 53

That is a very well done AC troll.

Well, congrats to him for being modded +4 insightful. If I were moderating he'd be at +5, tool.

When the well runs dry, the survivors move to where the water is.

Where might that be, and how are the downtrodden to get there? History is repeating itself, fool. Read this history of the 1920s (required reading in a general studies undergrad history class I took in 1978, it's a very good read). The same shit is happening now. Then, it was Bolsheviks. Now, it's terrorists. Now you right wingers say "liberal" like it's an insult, then it was "socialist" when a working man wanted a living wage.

It led to the KKK, and even worse things (including the Great Depression). Read the book. Learn history, or be doomed to repeat it -- the same shit is happening now.

Comment Re:Cars are meant to be driven (Score 1) 287

Call me old fashioned but to me, cars are meant to be driven.

Call me old fashioned, son, but cars are meant to be transportation, not toys for fun (unless you're on a private race track). Pontiac's "We build excitement" is ad copy, are you really stupid enough to believe that??

Did you know that the single biggest cause of death in people under 40 (probably you) is automobile accidents? cars ain't for fun, dufus, they're for taking you from one place to another. PERIOD. A car is a very dangerous piece of machinery. It is NOT a toy and is not for fun or "excitement".

Comment Re:Hmm... (Score 1) 426

They are not spending any more money on a 12-year-old product which generates 0 revenue.

If a design flaw is discovered in my 2002 automobile that affects safety, they're going to recall it at great expense. Microsoft's bugs are design defects and should be taken care of as long as the machines that were sold with that operating system are still serviceable. The "oh but MONEY" is just thieving bullshit; how much money did they make on that defective OS, anyway?

There is absolutely no reason why hardware should last longer than its software. If they paid attention writing it in the first place, rather than shoveling "good enough, we can patch it later" crap you wouldn't have this huge botnet that's going to bite us all in the ass.

Thanks, Microsoft, you evil, greedy fuckers. Are you one of their bean counters, by the way? You sound more like an accountant than a nerd.

Comment Re:Just windows XP? (Score 1) 426

Because desktop linux is a suitable replacement for a 10+ year old OS, nothing more.

Yes, it will run fine on a ten year old computer. It also, unlike Windows, runs on supercomputers.

While Linux fans and critics obsess about Linux's failure to sweep Windows off the desktop, they're ignoring that Linux is winning everywhere else, and that when it comes to the highest of high-end computing, Linux rules.

Driving the point home, the top 10 fastest supercomputers all run Linux of one sort or the other. You have to go the way to the 44th fastest computer, the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts box, which runs IBM's AIX Unix variant, to find one that doesn't run Linux.

Except for running Windows-only software, there isn't a single thing Windows can do that Linux can't. It isn't just a fine replacement for XP, it's also a fine replacement for Windows 7; Windows has slowed my laptop down so much in 3 years (slower every patch Tuesday) I'm putting kubuntu on it this weekend. It has functionality Windows lacks and the only thing Windows has that Linux doesn't is the ease of which it pisses me off, especially on Patch Tuesday. The fucking computer is tied up for forty five minutes or more for the download (can't do anything while it's doing that because that damned "I'm doing something! Look at me!!" balloon keeps popping up until you have to close all your programs, reboot, wait for it to not tell you DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER!, restart Windows, again wait five minutes while it says DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER!, then log on, then you have to reopen all your apps and files.

Linux tells you you have updates, you click "install" and keep on working. Rather than slowing the computer down, Linux updates usually make it run FASTER.

Windows is a toy OS.

Comment Re:betteridge's law of headline (Score 1) 466

Why do they make these cars so fugly? Geez, what happened to car design that wasn't simply utilitarian and looked fun and sexy?

What's wrong with the way the Volt looks? Or the Tesla? Or the Leaf, except for those stupid headlights. You want fugly? How about the Humvee, the Cooper (looks like a circus clown car), the completely retarded looking Honda Cube? Or anything made by Jeep?

Are you one of those dumb kids who thinks Humvees are cool?

Comment Re:XP rules! (Score 1) 426

I won't hesitate to guess that a majority of people are hanging on to XP only because they've got a cracked copy and don't want to buy a legitimate newer version.

That makes no sense at all. Why would they be running a cracked copy of XP when XP was preinstalled on the machine? And if they're using a cracked copy XP why wouldn't they just get a cracked copy of 7? I mean, besides the fact that Windows seven won't run on an old computer!

That's why Linux -- because Linux isn't full of cruft and bloat and bling. It gets faster rather than slower from updates. It's the same reason the top ten fastest supercomputers in the world run Linux -- it's FAST. Fast enough to run on old hardware.

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