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Comment Re:interesting stuff, but misleading (Score 2) 212

Say, that's really great. Now could you show me the list of Hollywood stars out promoting that we put soy in everything? Corn in everything? Where is the parallel to the whole hemp advocacy culture in broader society for anything else? Feel free to get back to me on that.

By the way, I wasn't aware that one post constituted "harping." Maybe that post just seemed like it lasted a really long time to you . . . for some reason?

Comment Re:interesting stuff, but misleading (Score 2) 212

It should also be noted that super capacitors already have better power density than chemical batteries by a wide margin, and are more than sufficient to replace I.C. engines and gasoline in that respect.

On the other hand they don't provide yet another excuse to incorporate hemp into yet another product or process. I consider hemp to be a sort of "wonder" material, as in, "I wonder what they'll try to put hemp in next just because they can.*" Oh, look! Another item with hemp in it! Surely US hemp policy must be changed now! No doubt it is a useful material, but it is easy to get the impression that hemp advocates are trying just a little too hard. It's also funny how the hemp advocacy often seems to run in parallel with certain other policy advocacy.

* Hemp trousers. Hemp ice cream, hemp sandwich cookies, hemp milk. Hemp capacitors. Really now.

Comment Re:yeah. (Score 1) 195

capable of forming an unimpaired and rational judgment concerning the consequences of such a voluntary refusal of nourishment . . .

First set of key words being voluntary refusal. It isn't completely voluntary, is it?

The military has said that some prisoners are pressuring others to join the hunger strike, and that some of those being tube-fed occasionally eat regular meals or voluntarily drink nutritional supplements when they are removed from their cell blocks and are alone with medical personnel. . . -- American Medical Association questions Guantanamo force-feedings

Second set of key words being capable of forming an unimpaired and rational judgment.

Almost 100 Guantánamo prisoners were classified by the US army as having psychiatric illnesses including severe depression, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, the prison camp files reveal. -- Guantánamo Bay files: Grim toll on mental health of prisoners

100 out of 179 is a pretty big fraction. It is also oddly close to the number of inmates on hunger strike.

The ones that are left in Guantanamo are pretty much the hardcore. They were willing to give their life for the cause if need be. They have previously engaged in synchronized suicide attempts as a political attack. The suicide Jihad continues, just without bombs in this case.

Comment Re:yeah. (Score 1) 195

Drug offences are not "ordinary criminal offences". Assault, fraud, and theft are ordinary criminal offenses. Drug prohibition is simply oppressive.

I think the number of countries without some sort of limitation, whether substance, quantity, purity, purpose, or other, is going to be very small. If you want to talk about minor edge cases, as marijuana, that is one thing, heroin is another.

Most of those in Guantanamo are known not to pose a threat, and about a third of them are known to be entirely innocent.

Guantanamo is pretty much down to the hardcore cases now. Of the "innocents" that were outright released, instead of transferred to prison in another country, at least 27% have been found back on the battlefield engaging in Jihad. Several of those released have engaged in infamous attacks.

Which is a war crime. When are the prosecutions going to start?

It could be a war crime . . . if they were protected persons. Unfortunately Al Qaida has made the commission of war crimes a focus of their strategy and thereby forfeits the conventions protections. (Where the "unlawful combatant" classification comes from.) The US has been gracious enough to treat them largely in accordance with the convention nonetheless. Now if this was the 1940s, and it was German soldiers we were talking about, or the 1950s and Korean soldiers, it would be illegal and the two of us would hold the same position.

"On the battlefield"? How about "attending a wedding party [wikipedia.org]"?

That would fall under the "theater of war" following the "battlefield or" part.

But, wedding parties are an interesting topic. It is an unfortunate fact of life that during armed conflict mistakes will occur, and attacks that shouldn't happen, do happen. To the best of my knowledge the NATO forces compensate victims and their families for mistaken attacks in the customary Afghan way. They also try to learn from the mistake and try to not repeat it. On the other hand, the Taliban propagandists aren't shy about accusing NATO forces of attacking "wedding parties" that consist of solely Taliban fighters. Of course, they have their own problems with weddings.

ISAF Discusses Insurgent Propaganda Messaging

“Their spokesmen do not hold themselves to a truth standard,” the official said. “Common Taliban propaganda practices are to fabricate or inflate damage estimates and deflect blame away from their fighters for civilian causalities.”

As an example, the official cited a June suicide bomb attack on a wedding party in Kandahar Province which killed over 35 Afghans and injured more than 70. Following the event, Taliban spokesmen claimed area was bombarded by coalition forces. Evidence from an investigation into the event, including ball bearings found in the victims’ bodies, proved the Taliban spokesperson’s claim false.

17 Afghans beheaded by the Taliban because they danced at a party

KABUL, Afghanistan - Insurgents beheaded 17 civilians in a Taliban-controlled area of southern Afghanistan, apparently because they attended a dance party that flouted the extreme brand of Islam embraced by the militants, officials said Monday.. . .

The victims were part of a large group that had gathered late Sunday in Helmand province's Musa Qala district for a celebration involving music and dancing, said district government chief Neyamatullah Khan. He said the Taliban slaughtered them to show their disapproval of the event. . . .

Comment Re:yeah. (Score 1) 195

No, waterboarding is not meant to maintain hygiene. It is clearly a coercive measure. But coercion doesn't necessarily imply torture legally. Torture has specific legal meaning and tests.

Medical procedures necessary to sustain life are sometime uncomfortable or even painful for a period of time, and can even result in significant damage to the body. Does that make them torture? If US forces found an Al Qaida member who had a suicide bomb charge that detonated prematurely and shredded one of his legs, it is quite likely that it would be medically necessary to preserve his life to apply a tourniquet and then amputate the leg. Is that torture? What if it is the exact same thing that had been done to US soldiers in the same situation, both before and since? Clearly, it isn't torture legally or ethically. If they did the same thing to a healthy, undamaged prisoner, it would be.

If the routine medical procedure is done in the customary manner for the same reason, it is difficult to see how it could be torture, logically.

Comment Re:I approve (Score 1) 996

So will total prohibition. Neither is acceptable. Drunk driving is deadly, but this is a step too far when even the government admits a limit this low this is de facto prohibition. Unless we also want to outlaw other distractions, like screens, radios, cupholders, pets, and passengers, we're just choosing what rights we're OK with giving up.

If you frame it as a rights issue, then there should be no limits whatsoever, and all you could do is punish the large number of additional people having accidents caused by their drink driving.

Any sort of punitive preventative measures will inevitably impact on people's absolute right to do what they want.

This is the sort of issue where absolute libertarianism falls foul of common sense and the wishes of the majority of people to prevent as many deaths of innocent people as possible. (If drunk drivers only killed themselves, I don't think people would care as much.)

Comment Re:Lopsided war (Score 2) 195

I realize that was meant to be a frivolous statement, but there's an actual reason for that. The CIA has traditionally recruited from within the 'old boy network' of Ivy League fraternities and secret societies, people whose loyalty to the existing power structure they can pretty much guarantee because they were born into it.

You might want to ask someone how that can work out.

The Cambridge spy ring

Comment Re:yeah. (Score 2) 195

Although sometimes the torture is indeed deliberate policy.

It turns out that this "torture" is a routine medical procedure performed daily for large numbers of people, from infants to the elderly: Feeding tube. Are they being "tortured" too?

So, question for you - if the US authorities were to stop forced feeding, and 60 detainees actually did starve themselves to death, would you complain? I expect so. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, isn't it? What do you think would happen if the threat of starving yourself to death becomes a "get out of jail free card?"

Keep in mind that the Islamists fighting the West do not fight alone, they have allies.
The Leftist-Islamist Alliance in Pictures
It's Official: Leftist-Islamist Alliance against the West

On a related note, can you post any facts on whether the CIA had or has a policy of followup drone strikes . . .

Maybe this will help:

Pakistan Says Drone Strikes Have Been Effective

Major-General Ghayur Mehmood spoke to a group of Pakistani reporters on a rare trip to Miran Shah, the administrative center of North Waziristan.

The Pakistani general says that information the military has gathered from its sources suggest most of those killed in drone attacks are hardcore militants, and the number of innocent people being killed is relatively low.

The official paper distributed among reporters says that there have been 164 drone strikes in the militant-dominated region of North Waziristan since 2007, killing 964 "terrorists". There were 171 al-Qaida fighters among those killed, mostly belonging to central Asian and Arab countries.

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I'm more than beginning to have the disturbing sense that the US government/military has stared too long into the abyss.

The media is having its intended effect.

If you have any brainstorms about how to do this better, I'm sure the Pentagon would love to hear about it. Send them a letter. Maybe something like, "Dear General, I know how you can get all the Al Qaida to stop fighting. All you have to do is ....."
If the next part is, "give up their fringe religious views and dreams of conquering the world for Islam," that isn't going to be very helpful.

Before you think about such a thing, you might want to read up on Al Qaida's goals.
The Future of Terrorism: What al-Qaida Really Wants

Comment Re:yeah. (Score 1) 195

That is why there are checks and balances.

Obama waits for probe before condemning IRS; Congress pounces

Having a good overall human rights record doesn't necessarily mean that nothing bad ever happens, but the system should respond to it in an appropriate way.

The AP scandal is pretty fresh, but I have little doubt it will provide the administration some very uncomfortable moments in the months ahead.

Comment Re:yeah. (Score 2) 195

The POWs in Guantanamo do get Red Cross visits. As to the rest of their status - in order to receive the full protection of the Geneva Convention as a combatant you have to obey the Law of War. Al Qaida doesn't do that, quite the reverse. Their basic strategy of directly targeting civilian noncombatants constitutes a war crime. They are quite rightly recognized as unlawful combatants. And do note, it isn't that this categorization is unknown internationally, but rather that various advocates refuse to acknowledge that it exists.

The black sites? Last time I looked they were for detention and interrogation.

Now, there are a couple of factors that make these discussions more interesting. First, is the fact that Al Qaida teaches its members to lie about their treatment and not cooperate.

Al Qaeda Manual Drives Detainee Behavior at Guantanamo Bay

. . . Police in Manchester, England, discovered the manual, which has come to be known as the "Manchester document," in 2000 while searching computer files found in the home of a known al Qaeda member. The contents were introduced as evidence into the 2001 trial of terrorists who bombed the U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998. . .

The closing chapter teaches al Qaeda operatives how to operate in a prison or detention center. It directs detainees to "insist on proving that torture was inflicted" and to "complain of mistreatment while in prison."

Chapter 17 instructs them to "be careful not to give the enemy any vital information" during interrogations.

Another section of the manual directs commanders to teach their operatives what to say if they're captured, and to explain it "more than once to ensure that they have assimilated it." To reinforce the message, it tells commanders to have operatives "explain it back to the commander."

One consequence of this lying, and international pressure on their behalf, is that committed terrorists have been released who then return to Jihad again, killing who knows how many.

Recidivism rises among released Guantanamo detainees

(Reuters) - The proportion of militants released from detention at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay who subsequently were believed to have returned to the battlefield rose slightly over the last year, according to official figures released on Monday.

In a summary report, the office of the Director of National Intelligence said that 27.9 percent of the 599 former detainees released from Guantanamo were either confirmed or suspected of later engaging in militant activity

Second, as does sometimes happen in war, service members will occasionally exceed their instructions, lose control, or develop a mental illness, and then engage in behavior that constitutes a war crime. Some people want to pretend that those actions are deliberate policy rather than the illegal actions of an individual or particular group. One prime example is the incident at Abu Ghraib. It resulted in a number of American soldiers going to jail, including the infamous Lynndie England. An isolated incident by a small number of soldiers that took an extraordinary number of pictures in a very short time, and gave a black eye to the US military and the United States. The actual events were magnified by the work of the media - the New York Times put stories and/or pictures on the front page 47 times.

Pay? Nobody pays me to post. But I do like to see the discussion occasionally enter the realm of facts even if it aggravates some people.

After all, facts that contradict some political view are "flamebait."

Submission + - Skylab: America's First Space Station Launched 40 Years Ago Today (wired.com)

cold fjord writes: So many things have happened in space technology and space flight that it is easy to overlook the pioneering work of Skylab, the first space station orbited by the United States. Today is the 40th anniversary of its launch: "With all the futuristic talk today about missions to Mars, lunar bases and asteroid mining, it's easy to forget that man has already been living off of the planet on and off for decades. Forty years ago today, Skylab — America's first outpost in space — was launched. The three-man orbiting laboratory was designed to conduct scientific experiments in space, such as studies of the effects of weightlessness on man and other living organisms, and observations of the sun."
NASA roundtable: NASAtelevision — 40th Anniversary of Skylab
NASA documentary: Skylab — The First 40 Days (1973)
NASA mission info: Skylab — America's First Space Station
Skylab Infographics
Skylab eventually reentered the atmosphere, broke up, and the pieces landed in Australia, where they made their way to Australian museums.

Comment Re:yeah. (Score -1, Flamebait) 195

You seem confused, so I'll help you sort it out.

the US with its imprisoning of more people (by absolute numbers and percentage of population) than any other country

They are imprisoned for what are recognizable as ordinary criminal offenses, such as drug offenses. People in the United States are not imprisoned for things like singing songs that insult the president, such as this.

Indefinite detention

You are referring to Prisoners of War. Completely legitimate and a recognized standard. You can keep POWs in detention until the end of the conflict. Unfortunate that they made a bad choice of fighting for Al Qaida.

torture

The US waterboarded a total of three people, the most recent of which was 10 years ago. The US has waterboarded at least thousands, or tens of thousands, of military pilots and special forces personnel both before and since in the same way. It is certainly a form of coercion. But torture has a legal definition, and waterboarding under those circumstances didn't meet that at the time. Or would you claim that the US actually tortured its service members?

summary execution

Killing people on the battlefield or in the theater of war isn't summary execution, but simply killing, and in no way illegitimate. The people killed were in the same status as these people shot dead by the US Government without trial or warrant.

Yeah. The US has credibility when it comes to human rights.

Yes, it does.

Comment Meh (Score 1, Insightful) 195

Turnabout is fair play.

How the FBI Busted Anna Chapman and the Russian Spy Ring

No surprise - Putin has been trying to drag the US - Russian relationship back to Cold War times. He has become much more provocative with military probes around US territory, and has been dismissive of US diplomats. Apparently it plays well in Russia.

It looks like he is getting his wish. So much for the "reset" in relations.

   

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