What is most interesting about these new apps Apple released is the question of how they were built. Were they built in C# with MS tools? Or are we seeing the emergence of Swift/SwiftUI on Windows? I have been using SwiftUI for a few years, and these apps looks suspiciously like they were built with it. The icons clearly are from the SFSymbols systems. Swift is now officially supported on Windows, so it would seem logical to build the apps using their own proprietary UI framework rather than the ever changing approach of Windows. Apple needs to support apps on a ton of platforms now including Windows, Android, and TVs. It would make sense to me for Apple to port SwiftUI to use on top of Swift on those platforms (Android and TVs are Linux based which Swift also supports).

So opinions? Did these apps get built with Visual Studio and C#? Or is this a peek at Apple's cross platform dev system?

Your right, its a shame nobody no’s there grammar these days, it really effects us to.

Yup, we know everything now! Good thing we weren't born 100 years ago when they didn't know everything, because now we do!

A failed bank robbery by incompetent criminals is still a crime.

"I want commercial software to be destroyed by FOSS"

Be careful what you wish for

"Apple hates GPL3 with the heat of a thousand suns."

As they should.

What is interesting to me about this story is that I see another clue for my theory that SwiftUI is Apple's Flutter. Granted any UI can create a certain look and feel, but that screenshot sure looks like SwiftUI to me. And I write SwiftUI code every day.

Remember how Swift became officially supported on Windows recently? Well obviously SwiftUI runs on Swift, so does Apple have SwiftUI working on Windows? My guess is yes. Why? Apple is a services company more and more. And as illustrated by this article they need their apps running on as many platforms as possible. Does Apple want to rely on others dev environments and other languages? Or would it be better to have their own environment they can deploy on other platforms? Note that Swift's support of various Linux flavors has also expanded recently. And what do smart TVs and Android run on? Linux.

So my prediction remains: Apple has built SwiftUI not only for their own platforms but for others as well. This allows them to control their experiences on other platforms as they expand their service offerings. If I am right I really hope they let outside developers in on it as well.

Glad it works for you, macOS works very well for me.

My 2016 MacBook runs just fine on the current macOS. Security updates are still pushed as well, they have not deprecated Monterey. The slowing down story you refer to had to do with iPhones and it was trying to solve a battery issue.

macOS Ventura 13.0 supports MacBooks from 2017 forward.

https://www.macrumors.com/how-...

This is insightful and criticism is flame bait? Slashdot has always had a libertarian bent, but this is absurd. This comment is another example of the right delegitimizing the left, which will later be used to justify their violence.

Thank you!

Thank you, I needed a big laugh this morning. I bet you are one of those people that thinks free speech means there are no consequences for what you say, and that freedom means you get to do whatever it is you want to do. Many people do, but that is not what they mean in a legal sense.

I saw other people already answered your question, so now you see the issue...

Same situation here, and I hate it. Homebuilder choose Control4, not me. And the screwed up thing is you can't really undo it. The switches are wired differently and can not be swapped out for normal light switches. So much for trying out competitors. Added bonus, the builder installed those all in one LED can lights where the light is built into the frame. Insanity.