glibc 2.1 is out 90
GTM writes "I have just seen this on the main page of LinuxHQ, and haven't even taken time to download it yet : after 2 years of development, the GNU C Library 2.1 is available. Nice to see it appear short after the release of the 2.2 Linux kernel. "
Debian packages available (Score:1)
deb http://www.debian.org/~espy/ glibc-2.1/binary-i386/
then run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
It is perfectly safe. (Score:1)
Linux 2.2.2 (Score:1)
Floppy drives (Score:1)
Ah hell... (Score:1)
Funny I am using gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release) and both Window Maker and the
Gimp built, and run fine. But i have seen some problems with egcs and C++ over here. OffiX would
not compile for me.
Re: glib2.1, packages, and breaking (Score:1)
hey... you managed to upgrade from libc5->glibc2? I need help with it, I've tried the walk-throughs and they always die on compiling the compiler to use glibc2 instead of libc5. I'm using a nearly unmodified Slackware 3.5 distribution, and I seriously need glibc2, since GTK+-1.1.x really wants it, and ninety percent of the stuff I wanna use needs GTK+. q= So... if you can help me, please send it my way, removing the NO-SPAM. from my addy, of course. q=
Ah hell... (how to compile glibc) (Score:1)
A good place for glibc compiling information is the glibc HOWTO. http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis
-Myrdraal
glibc-2.1 & LinuxPPC (Score:1)
Gee, just can't wait to reformat/reinstall....
It still says Library GPL not Lesser GPL (Score:1)
No Subject Given (Score:1)
" GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991
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10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program into other free
programs whose distribution conditions are different, write to the author
to ask for permission....
[the program program would there be the GPL'ed programm... if the author of the program with the "other" dist conditions would have to ask the author for permisson to inorporate part of the GPL programm is not clear.]
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[At the end of the license:]
This General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into
proprietary programs. If your program is a subroutine library, you may
consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with the
library. If this is what you want to do, use the GNU Library General
Public License instead of this License."
That is you cant link it to proprietary programs. That would allow programs under other licenses wich count as "non propriteary" to link to it. Im not sure tho, I only skimmed thru the GPL this time.
No Subject Given (Score:1)
because you're a moron (Score:1)
Still break StarOffice? (Score:1)
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Campaign StarDivision (Score:1)
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glibc 2.1 (Score:1)
Glibc changes, Microsoft wimpers (Score:1)
few THOUSAND technical websites that Linux can
reach and NT cannot, and that glibc 2.1 will help.
Some strange, mysterious, proprietary protocol? No.
Just IPv6, which is still pre-alpha for Windows.
Ah hell... (Score:1)
Ah hell... (Score:1)
Daniel
Linux 2.0.0 (Score:1)
Slackware (Score:1)
I, personally hate both of them. And I love Slackware for being the last remaining distro
with the old Linux spirit : take the best from
BSD and SysV.
Linux changes, Microsoft laughs (Score:1)
Are you sane? Every change to linux adds features and fixes bugs. And by the way, this is glibc (the gnu c library) not linux (the kernel put out by wonderful such as Linus and Alan Cox). Please don't be ignorant.
> very infrequently. OS's like Solaris, AIX and NT. Thier users sleep soundly at night without
> the nightmare fear of the hacker community "fixing" a non-problem or bloating out the
> libraries again. Just like now.
In this sentance, you have included NT with the likes of Solaris and AIX and called them all "Real" operating systems. I can understand Solaris and AIX being "Real" OSes, but NT? What criteria have you used to decide this? It certainly couldn't be based on either speed, stability, or security. If you had bothered to go to the site listed in the posting, you would have seen the large list of bugfixes and useful added features. And whether NT users sleep soundly at night or not, it pribably has nothing to do with their choice of OS.
> The new release of glibc is just "jobs for the boys" GPL developers changing things just to
> keep themselves employed.
This is laughable. "jobs for the boys"? Most of the people who worked on this release, with the exception of some at Cygnus I believe, did this work for _free_ outside their normal job. To claim other wise is downright stupid.
> 1999 will be the year when IBM, Dell, Compaq and others expose this schit and we can get back to stability.
Oh, this explains all of their recent commitments to sell linux. Unless by "back to stability" you mean away from NT. In that context the sentance makes sense.
> Keep those changes coming people. Its the only way you can sell your "support" contract. Ya
> know, break things on purpose and charge for the fixes. Just like M$
No, not like M$. M$ doesn't fix anything, but charges for it anyways.
Rob, _please_ get rid of ACs. I was of two minds about this until very recently, but I've come to the conclusion that most of the time they just are stupid. And _please_ no one give me that crap about privacy. Thats just bull$!@#. I have an account, and it didn't hurt to get it.
Strings (Score:1)
Get rid of ACs (Score:1)
Good point! (Score:1)
"Every change to Linux results in more and more problems. Its why real operating systems change very infrequently."
An articulate observation! That's why everyone should use MS-DOS 3.2. Without those annoying upgrades like multitasking, security fixes, and support for cdroms or hard drives bigger than 500 meg. It's so simple what could go wrong?
Aside from your grasping for straws (NT unchanged?), do you do have a good point. Support isn't going to be what drives the money in the relm of open source and GPLed software. It will be hardware manufacturers advertising a better option and writing drivers so the platform independant APIs/kernel can make their superior hardware run circles around the the status quo.
"1999 will be the year when IBM, Dell, Compaq and others expose this schit and we can get back to stability."
Who knows about Dell, they will likely play both sides off the middle until a winner becomes clear.
IBM wants to see M$ gone so they can take over and are our friends(at least in the short term), and Compaq is one of those companies with the superior hardware (Alpha) who can use the intrapolarity of Linux as a long term viability argument.
That ends our lesson on how to give both sides of an argument so you don't sound like a crazy fanatic. Incidentally do you stand to lose a job or stock value if M$ market share goes down?
user visible changes? (Score:1)
Still break StarOffice? (Score:1)
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Linux changes, Microsoft laughs (Score:1)
The big difference between so called commerical "real" OS and the open "free" OS, is choice and certainary.
Choice as and when you wish upgrade to the next stable version you can. (Personally I'm waiting for 2.2.x, x > 4, before I upgrade the kernal.)
Even when you don't chose to upgrade at every announcement, becuase of the very active and public development you can feel that things are always improving.
This sense of movement is typified by the 'ld core' bug in the early 2.2.x kernal. Discovered and fixed within half a day. I can image a "real" OS vendor, spending the first month before getting the fix through both marketing and the layers.
This all provides a deep certainary, and security, that the underlying OS is the best it can be and, if not, will be improved quickly and in a public manner.
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What is supposed to be so great about Hurd? (Score:1)
Linux 2.2.2 (Score:1)
It still says Library GPL not Lesser GPL (Score:1)
It's a matter of perspective. RMS sees proprietary software using LGPL libraries as a free ride that isn't returning anything to free software. I'm more inclined to agree with ESR though and say that use of LGPL code in proprietary software gives free software leverage over the commercial code by requiring it to target a specific API. Thus allowing the free software developers to set the standard. It's rather like the power Microsoft wields, with the crucial difference: it's all open and free.
Linux 2.2.2 (Score:1)
Recompiling is not necessary (Score:1)
Still break StarOffice? (Score:1)
What is supposed to be so great about Hurd? (Score:1)
Don't be so upset...maybe this guy is a manager. In which case, his actions of making uninformed decisions are actually par for the course.
Ah hell... (Score:1)
I was missing the same symbols when installing KDE on a rh5.0 system. You need libstdc++-2.8.0. The rpm from rh5.2 should drop right in.
Get rid of ACs (Score:1)
Linux 2.2.2 (Score:1)
-- Keith
DONT DO THIS!!! (Score:1)
libwcsmbs.so.0.0 is broken by the glibc2.1 install and will force you to having to reinstall slink.
It still says Library GPL not Lesser GPL (Score:1)
I think what you'll see by going for the GPL for libraries too, is that you'll have multiple implementations of most interesting libraries - one GPL'd, and at least one under another license.
So what advantage would the free software world get? A lot of duplicated work, and less focus on filling new niches, while wealthy corporations easily can afford to buy third competing third party libraries to link their code against?
I don't want lots of apps linked against different libraries with the same functionality just because they're under different licenses.