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Tesla Wins One Over Chinese Trademark Troll 103

cartechboy writes "The Tesla Model S went on sale in China this week, at a price of $121,000--which is the same $79,900 price as in the U.S. plus a whole bunch of other costs tacked on, mostly the customs duty China uses to protect its own auto industry and a stiff value-added tax. But that's not the big news. Lost in the announcement was the news that Tesla got its brand name back from a Chinese trademark troll who'd registered it in 2006, even before the very first electric Roadster was sold in the States. So now the company's stores can carry the name "Te Si La," which is the Chinese transliteration most familiar to consumers in that country. Score one more for Tesla Motors."
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Tesla Wins One Over Chinese Trademark Troll

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  • by erice ( 13380 ) on Friday January 24, 2014 @09:24PM (#46063447) Homepage

    Tesla was not competent enough to register the trademark in all markets it was going to do business, and someone else did. Rather than working out some medication where Tesla paid for the lack of foresight, it was simply taken away. I don't think that the ruling was wrong, obviously China does not value the free market the way the US does, but there should have a happy middle between millions of dollars and something reasonable to pay.

    The only reasonable value to pay to a troll is zero. Actually, no. The correct amount is that the troll pays the victim for their trouble and legal fees. A reasonable compromise is zero. The company in question was 100% troll. They were not doing business under that name. They had no intention of doing business under the Tesla name. This is true regardless of whether Tesla was "competent" enough to defensively register its name in all markets before it had product to sell just in case a troll an idea how to make some easy, unearned money.

  • "Free Trade" (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ebno-10db ( 1459097 ) on Friday January 24, 2014 @09:58PM (#46063633)

    the customs duty China uses to protect its own auto industry

    But remember, we have free trade!

    No really, all you have to do is define it such that "free trade" means the US has to bend over, while China, etc. get to do whatever they want to protect their industries.

  • by DNS-and-BIND ( 461968 ) on Friday January 24, 2014 @11:01PM (#46063959) Homepage
    Sure you can. You don't know Chinese law. Just another ignorant foreigner who thinks he can breeze into China and things will be just like they are back home. Nine times out of ten when you hear the "China screwed me" story it means "I couldn't be bothered to learn anything about local laws and just assumed I could do whatever I wanted." China has laws, but you have to use them, and most people don't bother to learn. Check chinalawblog.com [chinalawblog.com] for endless stories on this topic.
  • Re:Tesla (Score:5, Insightful)

    by CohibaVancouver ( 864662 ) on Friday January 24, 2014 @11:58PM (#46064181)

    I can't imagine living in a world where 70 thousand dollars must seem like something obtainable only by the top 1%

    ??!?!

    Unless you live on Mars, you *do* live in that world.

    To BILLIONS of people "in this world" a $70K+ car is something obtainable only by the top 1%. To the deeply impoverished of Africa, India and Asia - And some parts of South America - Spending more money than they will see in their entire lives on a car seems unimaginable, especially when you consider spending $40K on a car and then spreading your 'leftover' $30K in an African village on goats, vaccinations, mosquito nets, school supplies and a well will improve their lives dramatically.

    You will literally be saving the lives of children.

    Sure you'll be driving a Leaf instead of a Tesla, but so what?

    Yeah, yeah, I'm a commie. Whatever. Stop buying stupidly expensive cars and help your fellow man.

  • Re:"Free Trade" (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 25, 2014 @01:14AM (#46064595)

    Corn subsidy.

    Market manipulation need not be just a tariff, nor is it always bad, but these clearly are

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