Ask Slashdot: When Does Time Tracking at Work Go Too Far? 630
An anonymous reader writes "I work in a call center, full time, for a large mail order pharmacy. Recently, as part of their campaign to better track time spent both at and away from our desks, they have started tracking bathroom breaks. They use a Cisco phone system, and there is now a clock out option that says 'Bathroom.' My question is whether or not this is in any way acceptable in a large corporate environment (Around 800 people work at this same pharmacy) and is it even legal? How invasive would this really be considered, and beyond privacy concerns, how are they going to deal with the humiliation that their employees feel as a result of this? Has this happened to any of you?"
Re:eat a lot.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Unionize (Score:1, Informative)
Seen how that tends to work out in the long run?
Union in, costs up, profits down. Have to reduce costs so look into cost cutting measures which can include layoffs. Union in uproar and strikes. Costs spiral and profits tank. More cost cutting measures and can eventually cause the closure of the company or shifting of all work offshore with EVERYONE loosing their job.
I've been involved in unions before and seen the destruction that they actually cause whilst claiming to be helping, NEVER AGAIN!
Re:Unionize (Score:5, Informative)
Manager here (Score:5, Informative)
I'm a manager at a call center. We track time away from calls, not because we care how long it takes you to take a smoke, or to take a crap, but for metrics. We have over 25,000 people on the phones world wide and how many minutes a call takes vs. how many workers are available for a call vs. how many workers are away from their desk (for whatever reason, we don't care) is critical to improving wait time.
As usual for the paranoia gang around here, it's not really about you. It's a big wad of data that is considered on the whole to make better business decisions.
Now back to your extended shitter break.
Re:Unionize (Score:3, Informative)
The economic boom of the 1950s coincided with high union membership. The economic collapse we've had since 1980 coincides with low union membership. History says you're wrong.
Unions are not "government-backed". Corporations are -- governments issue corporate charters, governments issue property deeds, governments issue copyrights and patents. And the history of labor is full of the aristocrat class hiring strike-breaking thugs.
A race to the bottom is what's bad for our economy.
Stop drinking the right-wing Kool Aid; amnesia and ignorance are its main side effects.
Re:Unionize (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Unionize (Score:5, Informative)
On top of this, I was forced to quit my job there when the union didn't allow me to change my schedule due to lack of seniority. I had my kids coming home for the summer, and there's not a lot of daycares that stay open until 8:00 pm; none that I could afford on my salary.
Unions are great if they really do look after the workers, but this isn't the 50s anymore. If you need any sort of special accommodations, or the union decides some egregious policies aren't really an issue (bathroom breaks, mandatory overtime, etc) then you're screwed either way.
Quit and find a new job. That's my advice; you'll be happier.
Re:Unionize (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Unionize (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Unionize (Score:5, Informative)
The thing though is that 'right to work' as implemented is Orwellian in meaning. It is really the right to fire for no stated reason. That reason is often enough union-like activities.