Edgy Eft Knot 2 Released

Klaidas writes "The Ubuntu project has released a second Knot CD — an alpha version of Edgy Eft. Notable new features include a new 2.6.17 kernel, Gnome 2.16 beta 2, Firefox 2.0b1, OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 and much more. It is availible for download on Ubuntu's image server. The final stable version is still slated for release in October 2006."

"Edgy Eft"? Seriously?

[6Yankee]

Edgy Eft? FFS. That's even worse than Breezy Badger. What's that supposed to tell me or any other random person about what I'm downloading?

Who comes up with these names?

60 days?

[khasim]

Today is the 2nd of September.
Edgy Eft is scheduled for release "in October 2006".

That's about 60 days maximum to go from a 2nd alpha ... to beta ... to release. Isn't that a bit optimistic? Particularly for a release that is developer driven and packed with candy.

Re:"Edgy Eft"? Seriously?

[kolme]

Well, at least you actually know what 'eft' means, but for non-native English speakers (like me), Ubuntu codenames are a nightmare. They're hard to pronounce and hard to remember. I've had to look every frikin' fancy codename up in the dictionary, and then I was disappointed to know what they mean.

They should use more common words ('longhorn' is not too bad). It's like I release a program and I call it 'El Guepardo Guarrete". Would you remember that name?

What Ubuntu lacks

[Kilz]

What Ubuntu lacks is a good 64bit version.
One of the advantages we are told of Ubuntu is that we don't have to wait on the long Debian development cycle. While that sounds good to the average i386 Ubuntu user. The amd64 Ubuntu user still has to wait on Debian. The reason I say this? In one word Multiarch.
Multiarch was supposed to make it into Edgy. It was mentioned in the announcement by Mr Shuttleworth
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ 2006-April/000064.html [ubuntu.com] But it is no longer included. The reason? Ubuntu developers are waiting on Debian to develop it.
Its like 64bit users are second class citizens. No multiarch while distro's like SuSE, Fedora, Gento and others are already multiarch. No Wine, a 64bit firefox where plugins dont work, and other 32bit programs that must be manually added along with their lib's.
All the while eye candy is added to the 32bit version. If it wasn't for the community and people there I would have left long ago. Its sad that people with 64bit systems are told to install the 32bit version because things are missing.

Re:ubuntu is by far the leader

[westlake]

Wait, are we choosing our operating systems based upon popularity again?

If you anyone but a Geek, the answer is, and always will be, "Yes!"

Popularity solves too many problems for the user for the decision to go any other way.

Re:Still not that impressed!

[Anonymous Coward]

So, you don't like Gnome's file selector and you don't like Gnome's realplayer... What exactly does that have to do with Ubuntu? If you wanted KDE, why didn't you get Kubuntu instead?

As for the help system... It still exists, just as much as it exists in any Linux distro I've ever used. The only real difference I see here is that Ubuntu has a really good wiki and forum online also. That doesn't mean it doesn't have the regular help pages, man pages, etc. What exactly were you looking for? And since when did Windows get useful help pages anyway?

Re:Still not that impressed!

[dorkygeek]

What still bothers me is the fact that in Ubuntu's GNOME file selector interface, I cannot simply paste a URL and have the program open the referenced document.

How hard is it to hit ctrl+l and then paste your path?

Re:"Edgy Eft"? Seriously?

[DoubleRing]

Well, at least you actually know what 'eft' means, but for non-native English speakers (like me), Ubuntu codenames are a nightmare. They're hard to pronounce and hard to remember. I've had to look every frikin' fancy codename up in the dictionary, and then I was disappointed to know what they mean.

They should use more common words ('longhorn' is not too bad). It's like I release a program and I call it 'El Guepardo Guarrete". Would you remember that name?

Erm, you actually bothered to look it up? If you did, would you mind telling us what the heck an eft is? I'm pretty sure almost nobody here knows, so no, it really doesn't matter. I could care less what the name of a release is. You realize that the name of the "program" is Ubuntu--not Edgy Eft. If you named your program 'El Guepardo Guarrete', sure I would be pretty confused. If they named the next release of Ubuntu as "Ubuntu: Guepardo Guarrete", I'd just think of it as Ubuntu, and I'd probably remember it just because it was an odd name. Besides, um, Ubuntu is not an English word. Furthermore, the point of the name is kind of to be hard to pronounce. Have you ever heard of tongue twisters? It's usually an alliteration (a series of words that start with the same consonant sound) meant to be very difficult to say, but they end up being very memorable for that very reason.

For being a non-native speaker, you seem to have an extensive familiarity with English. Your grammer is better than most of the posts here (and that's not sarcasm), and you have an uncanny knowledge of idioms (like frikin')

As a Side Note

[rolfwind]

The official releases are also numbered by date (Year.Month) so you could refer to Breezy Bagder as 5.10 (October 2005) and Dapper Drake as 6.06 (June 2006). I really don't see the big deal, if the name is hard to remember/prounce, a pair of numbers should be okay.

From Wiki:
4.10 October 20, 2004[10] Warty Warthog
5.04 April 8, 2005 Hoary Hedgehog
5.10 October 13, 2005 Breezy Badger
6.06 June 1, 2006[11] Dapper Drake
6.10 October 26, 2006 Edgy Eft

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distrib ution) [wikipedia.org]

Re:"Edgy Eft"? Seriously?

[Chandon Seldon]

That's how it works. "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" had the development codename "Dapper Drake". "Ubuntu 6.10" has the development codename "Edgy Eft".