Making The News - In the Age Of The Internet 45
A reader writes:"Dan Gillmor has just published a column on his weblog about creating a collaborative book with his readers. The outline/full details are on his page - O'Reilly will be publishing the book." Dan and I spoke briefly about this - it's semisimilar to what Slashdot did with Jane's Intelligence Review - which turned out well.
Re:Chapter one (Score:1)
Will bad ideas ever stop being implemented? (Score:2, Interesting)
If you are acting in either of these capacities without getting paid, you are a sucker.
Re:Will bad ideas ever stop being implemented? (Score:2, Insightful)
Better tell the Wikipedians [wikipedia.org] that they are suckers before they waste any more of their time.
Sounds like an odd idea.. (Score:3, Funny)
I really can't see O'Reilly publishing a book replete with l337sp34k, goatse.cx links and old "In Soviet Russia.." lines, but what do I know?
I'm glad that I read the outline so... (Score:4, Insightful)
Hope the best for the author but I will not be buying it.
And why put out a book when you have perfectly good web publishing tools, money perhaps??? So for all the talk in the outline about news being different on the web, its really not for the authors - weblog != money for authors.
Re:I'm glad that I read the outline so... (Score:3, Interesting)
If you understand this, then you understand than a printed book is a legitimate outlet: this book needs to reach those who don't normally read stuf
Re:Open Source Book writing/collaboration tools (Score:1, Informative)
Dead Tree Blog (Score:3, Insightful)
New Media/Old Media (Score:2)
Rus
great plan (Score:5, Insightful)
1. Get loads of idiots online to collaborate on a book
2. Publish book
3. Idiots from (1.) will want to buy the book they are in
4. Profit!!!!
PS. is it just me or is slashdot very slashdotted today?
Re:great plan (Score:1)
It's not just you. It was pretty bad yesterday too. Periodically Slashdot has been slow ever since the server move.
Re:great plan (Score:1)
infinite number of monkeys (Score:1)
On the monkeys.
You write and he takes the money? (Score:4, Insightful)
I wouldnt mind contributing but what do I get for it? Looks lkike I still will have to buy the books to get any info.
I rather like the Bruce Eckel [mindview.net] model, he publishes the book online, anybody can contribute online(though your contributions might not make it to the paper version), and you only have to pay if you want a paper copy of the book. Almost like GPL.The end result does look good.
Or maybe the Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] model More like BSD license.
Collaboration: good. Lulu.com (Score:4, Informative)
Arguably, it also produces a lot of trash, but hey, there's a market for that, too.
The interesting thing here is that O'Reilly is taking this up with Gillmor. Not everyone can get published by O'Reilly, so what's a regular guy to do? Use Lulu.com, a new site founded by Bob Young, formerly of RedHat [slashdot.org]. You register as an author, and your collaborators register as an author, and you can all submit chapters to each other's books for collaboration. Then you can set price for online, print, or cd distribution, collecting an 80% royalty. No other publishing deal I know of sets an 80% royalty to the author.
Or choose no royalty and set the price for online distribution to free. Books can be published under any license you like, just place the copyright page with the license you like in the book when you upload it.
Re:Collaboration: good. Lulu.com (Score:2)
LULU.COM [lulu.com]
collaboration is good. (Score:2, Insightful)
Collaboration is a good thing. It's the foundation of things like the Free Software movement, and Open Source movement. It's how performers make good music.
Arguably, it also produces a lot of trash, but hey, there's a market for that, too.
The interesting thing here is that O'Reilly is taking this up with Gillmor. Not everyone can get published by O'Reilly, so what's a regular guy to do?
Use Lulu.com [lulu.com], a new site founded by Bob Young, former
Re:Moderators, please (Score:1)
OMG (Score:3, Funny)
For one ghastly moment I thought Jon Katz was posting again!
gak, barf (Score:2)
I like his intros to each paragraph summary. "Something happened! Clueless old media farts ignored it! Hip, happenin' bloggers circle-linked it to death! Hilarity and/or new paradigms ensued!"
I suppose if I actually felt it would make any difference, I would write a long piece about why this will not fundamentally change journalism, and submit it to Gillmor. But I suspect he is already
What about plastic.com? (Score:2)
PS on a side note, I think the
"Blogging" is speech, not necessarily journalism (Score:1)
Collaborative Fiction (Score:1)