
Slashback: Carpal, Displays, Asylum 80
But strenuous exercise might not be the answer ... Amigan writes: " Foxnews.com is reporting another story, based on a study done by the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN that significantly cuts in to the number of people claiming to be Carpal Tunnel suffers."
Of course, neither this nor the Canadian study mentioned shortly ago say that people don't suffer from true carpal tunnel afflictions -- only that it may be a widely mis-diagnosed condition.
Please drop quarters into your bedside cable modem kzinti writes: "Over two years ago CmdrTaco posted a story about a video clip archive and an animated short called 'Tripping the Rift' by Chris Moeller of 'King of the Hill.' TTR is a bawdy parody of popular science fiction like Star Trek and Star Wars, and is one of the funniest things you'll ever see. Alas, the clip available in 1999 from the archive (which has since shut down) was small and of poor quality. I recently decided to see if I could find a better quality copy on the net somewhere and struck gold at, wouldn't you know it, trippingtherift.com. Not only does this site have a newly posted, high-quality MPEG edition of TTR, but it also has a couple of DivX versions and links to Quicktime and other versions of TTR. The best news is that a second episode of TTR has been produced and should be available for download 'shortly.' Trip Now!"
Lookin' clever. Regarding Chris DiBona's walk through the recent Society for Information Display expo, SID Attendee writes: "Your SID correspondent missed one of the coolest demos, from eInk. These displays use charged particles with black & white pigments on opposing ends to form a pure reflective display. The contrast and resolution was great, easily like a newspaper. They consume zero power when the display is static, and can be made incredibly thin (less than 1mm). This could be the thing that makes ebooks/webpads for real. Color is on the horizon (they had a very crude color demo at the show).
PS - I wasn't that impressed with the OLEDs - many of the LCD displays outperformed them, and seem to have fewer lifespan issues."
Thanks for the first-hand report.
6 points for Canada! iamklerck writes: "Apparently the Scientology critic who was to go on trial for interfering with a religion has been granted "refugee" status in Canada. I wish him luck, as I'm sure we all do. Perhaps some day he'll be able to return to the U.S. without having his rights violated."
Re:Not wishing him too much luck... (Score:1)
Jane, you ignorant slut. Take even a cursory glance at Scientology's past treatment of its critics and you will see that anyone who publicly opposes it and takes time to protest against it is the very fucking definition of "one more individual who is facing genuine danger for his private beliefs".
Damn the hypocrites. (Score:1)
Not only is it a crap movie about a Ãf¼berhacker, but it promotes the career of a member of a terrorist organization only known to be a true "religion" in the United States, and that
because they infiltrated the IRS.
Again, pardon the venom, but I do not want to see *any* victories to Scientology, not even at the box office. Thank you for your time.
Chao
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:1)
This comment reminds me of the hindus in India who think Catholics are cannibals because in the sacrament of Holy Communion you "eat the Body of Christ". [This used to be a widespread belief many years ago, and you still find it out in the less educated areas in India.]
And how are they wrong? The Catholic idea of transubstantiation [dictionary.com] is not some kind of "symbol" like what it got changed to in most other Christian religions; it is that the wine and bread actually turn into the blood and body of Christ through a miracle. That would make them cannibals.
The Facts About Repetitive Strain Injuries (Score:3)
Re:Canda? (Score:4)
Was it self-promotion for Keith Henson when he was sentenced to jail for criticizing scientologists? Was it self-promotion for Keith Henson when he made posts critical of scientologists on a usenet group? Was it self-promotion for Keith Henson when he was arrested at gunpoint by a heavily-armed "fugitive team" in Canada because scientologists lied [politechbot.com] to the police and said he there was a dangerous man in their midsts?
I wonder what manner of man you are fm6.
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:1)
I believe he said to pity and ignore them, not hate them. Although, from their actions, CoS people seem to hate their victims.
Re:CTS READ THEN DAMN REPORT CAREFULLY (Score:2)
It depends on what you're referring to... if you want to refer to the individual media rather than the overall "media" group, you would use "are". Else, you'd use "is".
For instance, "Those are proud people" means that, taken individually, each person in the group you're referring to is proud. "That is a proud people" means the nation or ethnic group in question is, taken as a whole, proud. That is, the majority of the people are proud, but any given individual in the group may or may not be proud.
Same deal with media. (This doesn't fly with most plurals, incidentally... just those which double [no pun intended] as mass names.)
Re:Doctors and diagnosis. (Score:2)
The underlying cause is another matter entirely.
CTS READ THEN DAMN REPORT CAREFULLY (Score:2)
And oh yeah FOX news is the mouthpiece of the Republican Party - no too much of an agenda there.
Only 2 points for Canada, alas (Score:2)
Re:that sucks about the OLEDs (Score:1)
Re:Carpal(ouch) Tu(oww)nnel(ow!) (Score:1)
Carpal(ouch) Tu(oww)nnel(ow!) (Score:2)
There(ow!) is no (ouch!)su(owww!!)ch thing as(aagh) (ouch)carpal(owwwww!!) tunnel sy(oww!!)ndrome. Get over (ouch) it.
Re:Correction re: Keith Henson (Score:2)
Exercise your External Rotators. (Score:2)
Not as easy a search as I thought... (Score:2)
If you ARE huge check out this one http://www.t-mag.com/html/body_145shldr.html
The writing style is pretty funny.
Re:Tripping The Rift (Score:1)
It works just great over the cable modem at work (but, ah, this isn't the censored version so you probably don't want to watch it someplace where you might attract an audience--Terry Farrell makes lots of "noises" at the end).
Re:6 points? (Score:1)
Part of ths reason.. (Score:2)
Re:Gooooooooo Canada (Score:2)
The Alberta Premier granted free bus tickets to tons of welfare applicants several years ago to have them go to B.C. and claim welfare there (dumping them on the B.C. Economy)
How's that for not dealing with you problems?
Re:Hmmmm. (Score:1)
I hear that the White House staffers are trying to teach him, so he'll be able to see what those funny squiggles are on his honorary doctorate [nd.edu] -- a sad day for universities everywhere, that was...
Re:Not wishing him too much luck... (Score:2)
Close. The actual quote is "ruin him utterly [clambake.org]." Same difference, really; it's all Fair Game [clambake.org] in the end.
And now that I've said this...let the Dead Agenting [carleton.ca] from the other side begin!
Re:Gooooooooo Canada (Score:1)
Never forget, never forgive.
Re:Gooooooooo Canada (Score:1)
There's no such thing as freedom in the People's Republic of California anymore. (I live "next door" to them in Nevada; they're constantly sending their loose screws our way to fsck up this state as badly as they've done their own.)
Re:Carpal Tunnel... (Score:1)
Have you tried something like a touchpad? Unlike mice you don't have to pick'em up and put'em down all the time, so less of a workout for your wrist. Just zip your finger along the surface.
I use the Cirque Glidepoint [cirque.com], and I like it much better than a mouse.
Re:Correction re: Keith Henson (Score:3)
Re:CTS READ THEN DAMN REPORT CAREFULLY (Score:1)
And CNN is a mouthpiece of the democrats whats your point?
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:3)
This comment reminds me of the hindus in India who think Catholics are cannibals because in the sacrament of Holy Communion you "eat the Body of Christ". [This used to be a widespread belief many years ago, and you still find it out in the less educated areas in India.]
The main criticism here is plain technique. FUD is best reserved for use by the Microsofties, not someone who is supposed to be intelligent.
You've misunderstood. There's no Scientologist religious sacrament involving pets. It's just that one of their standard intimidation techiniques is to kill the pets of those who they view as enemies. This is derived from Hubbard's "Fair Game" doctrine, which states that "Suppressive Persons" (enemies of the CoS) are "Fair Game" for certain tactics. From hour.ca [www.hour.ca]:
You can find a couple of reference to Scientologists attacking the pets of their opponents here [xenu.net] (search for "pets", it's near the bottom of the page) and here [xenu.net] (Search for "Duke"). You can probably find more by digging around on google or xenu.net.--
"HORSE."
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:2)
no they're not. They're a company, and definately NOT human. Their employees, CEOs, Bill Gates and even their lawyer are human. calling MS human is like calling a human "carbohydrates and water".
//rdj
Caral tunnel (Score:1)
Tripping The Rift (Score:3)
Re:Canada? (Score:2)
Re:Exercise your External Rotators. (Score:1)
Spork off!
Re:Exercise your External Rotators. (Score:1)
Hmmmm. (Score:1)
So this one guy will have a great deal of impact on industrial policy in the US.
That is assuming that President Bush hadn't made up his mind without reading any publication.
The timing is certainly convenient.
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:1)
In addition, from what I have read, there is no proof that Judge Swearinger's dog's drowning was related to the case he was currently on. Nor is there proof that his tires being slashed is related to the case he was currently on. Judges are involved in hundreds or thousands of cases, and almost certainly make enemies. There is nothing to tie these incidents together, and no proof that it was remotely related. There is also no reason to think that this wasn't done by an antagonist in order to get someone blamed.
In addition, even if it were true, ONE incident does not make something "standard technique".
Sure sounds like FUD to me.
The only other incident I can find, the Youngs, simply states: The illogic of this is astounding. A dog was missing, so 'someone stole it'. He was injured, possibly by a vehicle or another animal, so 'he was beaten.' This story involves quite a few assumptions. If they had had ANY kind of proof, they could have sued. The law is clear regarding cruelty to animals, is it not?
Whoah. Hold on here. (Score:1)
Even seemingly flying in the face of "humanity" [prisonexp.org]?
Looks like Milgran and the Stanford Prison Experiment were on the money...
Re:Exercise your External Rotators. (Score:2)
Re:CTS READ THEN DAMN REPORT CAREFULLY (Score:1)
Not if the Judge is a Clam (Score:2)
If you had read the story you would know the DA is almost certainly a Clam and the Judge is a suspected Clam.
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:2)
"One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad
So if carpal tunnel is really a misdiagnosis... (Score:3)
Stephen Root in Tripping the Rift (Score:1)
that sucks about the OLEDs (Score:2)
Just got my GameBoy Advance today, and as with everybody else I'm disappointed with the very dim screen. I figure Nintendo will probably release an OLED version in a few years, which would be great -- *if* these problems with OLEDs get worked out.
Re:that sucks about the OLEDs (Score:1)
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Re:Carpal(ouch) Tu(oww)nnel(ow!) (Score:1)
"Well, thats whats on the post."
"Perhaps he was dictating."
"Oh, shut up."
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Re:Damn the hypocrites. (Score:1)
I notice we got only one Scientologist posting so far? Come on Office of Special Affairs, show your stuff! Let's hear the pedophile smears!
Re:6 points? (Score:1)
Re:Not wishing him too much luck... (Score:5)
KH's death threat was a "Tom Cruise Missile" joke, and the phrase "Destroy them utterly." "Destroy them utterly" was a direct quote from L Ron Hubbard, referring to dealing with enemies of his cult. KH has spent the last several years of his life trying to make the world a better place by exposing a vicious, money-grubbing cult.
No, I'm not a Scientologist. I've never met one and couldn't care less about them either way.
Maybe you should care - the COS is as famous as Cantor and Seigel for making the net a worse place. They started with an attempted rmgroup to silence their critics. It looks as if they then escalated to cancels of critic's posts, then auto-generated spam floods, cross-posts to Nazi hate groups, and now seem to be trying child porn floods of alt.religion.scientology (probably to later claim it is a haven for pedophiles.) Fear those that try to drown the free exchange of ideas.
Good book (Score:2)
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:1)
Now this is untrue. Don't you know that Co$ books don't get to used bookstores? They're all returned directly to the publisher (Bride Publications, another Co$ holding) to be redistributed, so that they can keep them as high on the bestsellers list as possible.
And, just to prevent the dissent, I have experienced this myself. I've worked at a number of bookstores, from large chains to single-storefront independents and at each of them seen obviously used books arrive on the truck, and, in some cases, actually arrive with price tags from other bookstores still attached. And this is in North Carolina, which is hardly a hotbed of Co$ activity.
Doctors and diagnosis. (Score:2)
If they diagnose CTS, give you some exercise, drugs, ergonomics, and it goes away then it's CTS. But, it could be something else that responded to the treatment. Doctors apply a scientific method to diagnosis as one would apply with programming. They don't develop a theory and test the theory for that diagnosis. Doctors will throw multiple treatments at a problem, and if it solves that problem they declare the diagnosis correct. Doctors generally do not perform the testing and analysis to make a definitive diagnosis.
Better Than eInk (Score:1)
Dotcom Nostalgia. [peakprogramming.com]
Canda? (Score:2)
Given the amount of self-promotion Keith Henson indulges in, I suspect a hoax.
Just to establish my credentials as a non-Scientologist: L. Ron Hubbard was a Hack!
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Re:Tripping The Rift (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1)
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:1)
2. No Pets. Scientologists like to release the "Thetans" in Pets. By killing them.
This comment reminds me of the hindus in India who think Catholics are cannibals because in the sacrament of Holy Communion you "eat the Body of Christ". [This used to be a widespread belief many years ago, and you still find it out in the less educated areas in India.]
The main criticism here is plain technique. FUD is best reserved for use by the Microsofties, not someone who is supposed to be intelligent.
I really dislike seeing FUD used by folks. Just a pet peeve. I greatly admire intelligent argument based on issues.
Philosophy is an Operating dSystem for the Mind. You have your OS, I have Mine. They have theirs. When was the last time you even looked at your own source code? For most people, it is spaghettifried code like you would never imagine. Some modules never fire up correctly.
(man - i got to get a job. Let's Play Quake Instead! ok ..)
They apparently succeed just because they have some kind of system for inspecting code. Just something, somehow. So they say in their own way. [They haven't gone away in fifty years, and they seems to be growing.]
Never mind if you would never agree to the design principals, or whatever. or are horrifried by what they do. If you want to rant and rave and spit blood, fine.
You probably know how to pull apart a piece of source code and criticise it from a design viewpoint. You can use that here in this context.
Saying "MS code sucks" is a lame statement. Being able to say how and why under what functionality is far more useful. Now applying that to the Operating System of the Mind could be useful.
You could critique various systems usefully, instead of FUDding around. You could what functionality would be useful, and which should be dropped.
Heck, it would even be an intelligent debate.
Check out the Vinny the Vampire [eplugz.com] comic strip
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:3)
Basically it goes into the profound similarity between in cultural situations where group X says Group Y is horrible, evil, etc. It is a revelation to recognize it as a profound group psychosis. It has nothing to do with politics or religion in the common sense of the word. It is a revelation to see it in oneself and to overcome it.
I have lived over seas, and I have also seen it in the middle east. The fact of the hate itself I consider a psychosis. Two psychotics do not make either side a saint.
I have seen a man reading the bible, interjecting racist remarks into the plain text, convinced that what he was saying was in fact in the text. When it wasn't there at all.
Fundamentally, I throw out and throw away anything that walks down the road of foam at the mouth these guys or those guys or them guys over there are PURE evil.
One of the things that Wiesenthall [wiesenthal.com] (a WWII deathcamp survivor and famed Nazi hunter) said about the Nazis was the sheer shock that he discovered that they were human, too. Simply human. That there was no more monster there then there was in anyone else.
All too much of this takes the witch hunt attitude of "we will search for evidence of evil"; it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, and down the toilet you go. I have seen some of the stuff you are talking about, and the wacko gleam in the eye obsession is there in an awful lot of the writing.
I am sorry. I reject that obsession with hate and the urge to detroy. I have lost family due to such hate (I am not jewish)
I may despise MS, for example, for their software and marketing practices. But ultimately, they too are human.
Go ahead. Hate them. Hate them. Hate them more thoroughly, despise them as completely as possible, until there is no room in your soul for anything else. Forever.
And see where it leaves you.
It is not a place I recommend. But you can live there if you want.
Check out the Vinny the Vampire [eplugz.com] comic strip
Of course carpal tunnel syndrome is real! (Score:2)
I think we have our answer!!! (Score:5)
The fact that Henson has "won" isn't really true YET. Just remember, that just because he's in Canada, it doesn't mean he's untouchable. So, for as long as it takes for this CULT to implode, he'll have to abide by the following rules...
1. NO Personality tests. Period.
2. No Pets. Scientologists like to release the "Thetans" in Pets. By killing them.
3. He won't be able to visit used bookstores, as Scientologists will undoubtedly recognize him from LRH's next book (from the grave) "The Enemy".
4. He'll have to deal with getting picketed.
5. He'll have to explain to his neighbors that NO, He's not a pedophile, and a rapist, and involved with the Occult. (anymore)
However, he should be able to Drive, buy bathing products, eat normally, AND live in a *gasp* house. All ideas that a normal scientologist loses when one of those videos SUCKS the INTELLIGENCE right out of em...
I think I killed a xenu once... I threw his familiar out the window, and he couldn't survive the system shock. That was a LONG time ago though.
ciao`... krystal_blade
Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:5)
And it's not FUD.
See, FUD is used when you speak an "untruth" about something or someone. Or, you want a desired result that is somehow beneficial to you. Or, when you are worried that the truth about yourself may be harmful. This isn't "untruth". This isn't "made up". This is actually a fairly delicate way of stating that:
Scientology uses tactics such as stalking, hiring investigators to dig up dirt on you, harrassment (picketing), disruption of your daily routine, physical assault, threats, lies, spreading rumors about you (such as a letter to your neighbors stating your a pedophile, convicted rapist, etc.) threatened litigation, and yes, even the assault and battery of your animal companion to the point of death. They even cover up deaths to avoid court prosecution.
www.videorotten.com, or www.xenu.net
This is not FUD. These are all documented statements made by people who, for one reason or another, were labeled as "enemies" of Scientology, and either spoke out about it, or threatened to.
These people had their lives ruined, lost loved ones, were alienated from their families, and all kinds of other nifty, nasty things.
LRH (L. Ron Hubbard for the uninitiated) has been quoted by his peers on COUNTLESS occasions that
"the best way to make money was to start a religion".
And "If they are enemies, do not stop until they are destroyed utterly."
and "Litigation does not have to succeed, it only has to harrass to be effective."
And countless other footbazooka quotes that can be read at
www.xenu.net
Check it out. Take a bit of time.
You'll see that Scientology has left a paper trail every bit as damning as the "Halloween Documents" presented on the internet by Microsoft. It's NOT FUD. It's a statement of fact.
These people aren't nice.
They aren't your friends.
They don't warrant defense.
The only thing they deserve is to be pitied, and ignored.
krystal_blade
e-ink (Score:1)
Re:So if carpal tunnel is really a misdiagnosis... (Score:2)
In fact, I first heard about this story on the Discovery channel and they said that while computer use doesn't cause carpal tunnel it can make it quite worse.
So I would personally conclude that ergonmic keyboards and such can still be quite beneficial. And even if they don't prevent any injuries I still find them much more comfortable :O)
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Garett
Moreover (Score:1)
They should compare computer users to the Amish (or some other group of total non-computer users) if they want a fair study.
CTS (and other such hand injuries) are not only caused by typing, there are other professions too. Generally, people who work a lot with their hands. Can't think of any common ones right now though. Piano playing comes to mind, but thats not too common.
Correction re: Keith Henson (Score:5)
This is as good an immediate outcome as could be hoped for. Some alternatives were that he could have been kept in jail longer, or booted back across the border to the US. For more info and updates, see here [operatingthetan.com].
Re:Not wishing him too much luck... (Score:2)
The KP spam attack on a.r.s. is a red herring. It's been hitting nanau and a.h.m just as hard.
It's not scientologists and it's not the owner of the domain being spammed that's doing this. It's just the same kiddies who put Steve Gibson offline.
What's really worrying about that attack is that it's a covergence of a remote trojan (on @home and uswest broadband users) and Hipcrime's NewsAgent, a newsgroup flooding program. Broadband providers abuse desks are either non-existant or understaffed, compounding the problem.
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This Just In (or not) (Score:1)
Re:E-Ink Everything (Score:1)
Re:CTS READ THEN DAMN REPORT CAREFULLY (Score:1)
FAUX NEWS - JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS, WHAT'S THAT?!?
FAUX NEWS - GET YOUR RUMORS AND GOSSIP HERE REPORTED AS GOSPEL TRUTH!
FAUX NEWS - Enjoy our blonde newswhores!
FAUX NEWS - WHERE ELSE CAN YOU HAVE "LIES THROUGH THEIR TEETH" AND "REPUBLICAN" AND "CONSERVATIVE" BE SYNONYMOUS. WE RUIN OUR OWN PARTY BY BEING SUCH SHAMELESS LIARS!
Where's the control group? (Score:3)
Re:Hmmmm. (Score:1)
"What are we going to do tonight, Bill?"
Re:E-Ink Everything (Score:1)
So CTS has disappeared??? (Score:1)
No, I think that was one of the lamest studies I've seen -- either that, or the article was not thorough. In order to make it a valid study, you'd have to put in some controls. Namely, you'd need a 80's style environment where people sit in poorly adjusted chairs with keyboard set up too high and tilted the wrong way. Study this for several years with the same people, and see how many CTS reports there are.
GreyPoopon
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Re:I think we have our answer!!! (Score:1)
Just keep that in mind, people are never evil. EVER. they might be totally psychotic, but not evil. An organization can be evil; the people involved are not evil, simply probably psychotic ^_^.
Just my $.02... Hmm, he was probably trolled though because of the whole MS fuddery ^_^
Ralph Klien (Score:1)
Gooooooooo Canada (Score:2)
You have a right to criticize religion; it falls under Free Speech. California's judges really should've looked into that fact.
OLEDs (Score:5)
Of course Organic LEDs have short lifespans. There's only how long an array of fireflies will live...
E-Ink Everything (Score:3)
Carpal Tunnel... (Score:1)
My hand seems to hurt more when I use the mouse alot, but typing doesn't seem to be a problem.
I don't know if I have Carpal Tunnel.. but I do have pain..
Do you need buy.com Coupons [garlanger.com]
Re:that sucks about the OLEDs (Score:1)