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www.YourOpenSourceProject.cx is Free 110

The_Jazzman writes, "Nic.cx is now offering completely free domains to those with open-source projects. Check out FAQ question 2.16." CX is Christmas Island. They're running on free software and want to give back to the community. Serious inquiries only, please. Don't abuse their kindness.
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  • Thats some generousity to be commended.
  • by Judg3 ( 88435 ) <jeremy AT pavleck DOT com> on Monday February 21, 2000 @01:12AM (#1256800) Homepage Journal
    This is absolutely wonderful. I'm glad to see that Cx is doing what others wont. Perhaps a new net extension of .open or .source could be added and provided free of charge too. Hell, they wanna do .shop and many others, so why not one for us? The unsung heres of the *nix community! Might be nice to have a donation driven server which hosts open source and other non-profit sites on a donation basis only... Any takers?

    ----------------------------------
  • According to the Internet Weather Source [noaa.gov] it is 5am and the conditions on Christmas Island are already up to:-
    • Temperature: 77 F (25 C)
    • Dew Point: 73 F (23 C)
    • Relative Humidity: 88%
    I don't know about you but this doesn't seem to be the most appropriate conditions for keeping your servers fine and funky...
    :-)
  • by fusion94 ( 19221 ) on Monday February 21, 2000 @01:13AM (#1256802) Homepage
    We're already hosting open source projects for free.

    http://sourceforge.net
  • Where are the actual computers located for these people? I'm assuming that they haven't laid in some fancy T3s into these remote places just to do DNS...

    Same question goes for all these small domains (.tv, .nu, etc).

    --Remove SPAM from my address to mail me
  • Interesting weather sure, but i think you've missed the point that the wonders of DNS let a domain name point to any IP.

    In other words, a server on the other side of the world can have a *.cx domain name.

  • TLDs are quite expensive to enact. I'm not sure who pays, or how much (maybe someone could reply to this), but I don't think it's too easy.

    As for the unsung heros, you're dreaming. No one minority group is louder on the Internet than OSS programmers.

    > Any takers?

    'Any givers', you mean?
  • Checking host: www.nic.cx port 80
    (Which is really MargeSimpson.planet-three.net with an IP address of 195.224.98.195)
    Operating system: 195.224.98.195:80 * Linux 1.2.xx
    Web server software: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) PHP/3.0.12

  • It seems cheap anyway. But can someone explain why they have prices in pounds? I thought Christmas Island used Australian Dollars.
  • by fingal ( 49160 ) on Monday February 21, 2000 @01:21AM (#1256808) Homepage
    Free hosting of open source projects is "A Good Thing" and should be encouraged as much as possible, but one thought occurred to me which is that according to the government page [www.nic.cx]:
    "
    Christmas Island's full title is the Territory of Christmas Island. This is because it is an external territory of Australia. It is not autonomous, and falls under the authority of the Governor General of Australia and Australian Law."
    Now, does that mean that all domains hosted under the .cx domain are subject to Australian regulations concerning content? Does the usage of a particular country's domain force you to abide by their rules, even if the servers are not physically located in the country in question?
  • I don't know about you but this doesn't seem to be the most appropriate conditions for keeping your servers fine and funky...

    He he he. :-) That's right: usually, computers and water do not mix very well.

    But if I am not mistaken, the servers for the .cx domain are not located on the Christmas Islands. I could not find this information on their pages, but I think that they are somewhere in the US or Australia, probably in a slightly drier place. So the servers should be safe.

  • by SuperG ( 83071 ) <garth_e@h[ ]ail.com ['otm' in gap]> on Monday February 21, 2000 @01:28AM (#1256810)
    Just a quick question, is there any word on any more stringent policy for what is or isn't a valid Open Source project? It seems fair enough that they are saying a) If we give you a domain we aren't going to rip it off you except for damn good reasons and b) we are trying to help out Open Source projects, but I'm just a little wary that it's a little open to abuse (Hello LinuxOne!), as it's at least a by default endorsement that you are running a legit Open Source project.

    I know I sound paranoid (please! It's late where I live!), and this is a nice idea, I just don't want the cons to out way the pros here.

    Would an explicit mention on the website with regards to what license your software is under (ie. GPL, BSD etc.) be enough?

    Just wondering.....
  • I sure hope that this offer doesn't go under due to abuse of their offer. Reminds me of the free pc story that was posted earlier. Sure the idea was good, and the execution was bad, but i think some of there undoing was the people who turned off their ads. "Mac's are fast, you just have to be patient."
  • May be, these guys can organised a Open source festival...
    Anyway I will go there one day.
  • Humm... brings the "data haven" concept into mind.
    I reckon it would be something along the lines of "web server's geographical location" - anyone know the particulars of the law on this ?
    Several permutations come to mind - to the extent of a connection via satelite to a server located in a ship in international waters (Flag of origin ?).
    I know it's a bit over the top, but in the long run (read a couple of years) it may be worth considering.
  • How much more coolness points does .cx has over $(SUBJ)?
  • I would imagine a good way to commend these people would be to arrange vacations there.

    If places like these see their local economy improving thru these sorts of schemes then ...

  • This is not about hosting, but about free domain names.
    Cx's registrants can still make their DNS point to sourceforge.net if they want. Free DNS services are available from different sites (like Granite Canyon [granitecanyon.com] for example,) so opensource webmasters don't even have to pay for that either.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Weren't you paying attention in South Park? Canada isn't a real country. Oh were talking about Australia but its not a real country either as its still part of the British Commenwelth and the head of Oz is appointed by the Queen of England.

    So Christmas island is not a real country that belongs to a different non real country. I guess that would make it a meta-country.

    No has has blown a nuke anywhere near it for a long time -- except france.

    Most country domains are served in the Federal Republic of California. Berekley runs a major dns server for .oz (oh wait that was taken away and repalce by the much less cool .au)
  • I was responding not to the article but to the poster who stated:

    "Might be nice to have a donation driven server which hosts open source and other non-profit sites on a donation basis only... Any takers?"

    That's all...
  • It is probably quite worth considering now because "if" a country would feel that adoption of their geographical domain is enough to include the content inside whatever censorship rules they have set up, then how does this affect the taxation of profits from a commercial web-site? Do you pay taxes in the registered location of the domain of your web-site or the location of the server, the location of your bank, your country of residence or the registered location of your business? Are there any restrictions on the having all of these locations in different countries? From the technical point of view in terms of running your business over the internet it makes absolutely no difference where everything is.
  • I tried to find out where the server for the .cx domain could be located. Here are the results of a traceroute done from the nice tools page of SamSpade.Org [samspade.org]:

    1 206.117.161.1 (206.117.161.1) [AS226] 1 ms
    2 isi-acg.ln.net (130.152.136.1) [AS226] 2 ms
    3 triton.cerf.net (198.32.146.20) [AS226] 3 ms
    4 atm11-0.lax-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.29.17) [AS1740] 8 ms
    5 pos8-0-155M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.32.230) [AS1740] 3 ms
    6 so1-0-0-622M.dfw-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.78) [AS1740] 40 ms
    7 pos2-0-622M.chi-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.46.82) [AS1740] 64 ms
    8 pos1-0-622M.nyc-bb8.cerf.net (134.24.32.214) [AS1740] 86 ms
    9 pos1-0-0-155M.nyc-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.32.226) [AS1740] 84 ms
    10 gxn-gw.nyc-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.130.114) [AS1740] 84 ms
    11 hs8-0-0-llb-ny1.TH1.core.rtr.xara.net (194.143.164.161) [AS5413/AS5519] 157 ms
    12 gb6-0-0-llb-x-many.TH25.core.rtr.xara.net (194.143.163.132) [AS5413/AS5519] 157 ms
    13 gb6-0-0-llb-x-many.TH7.core.rtr.xara.net (194.143.163.131) [AS5413/AS5519] 157 ms
    14 se0-xfs-d416-th7.planet3.cust.rtr.xara.net (195.224.216.227) [AS5519] 163 ms
    15 ChiefWiggum.planet-three.net (195.224.98.130) [AS5519] 165 ms
    16 * * *

    Also, all the hosts that I could find and that seemed to be related to the top-level .cx domain (DNS, mail servers, etc.) are aliases for some machines in the domain .planet-three.net.

    And whois reports the following for planet-three.net:

    Planet Three Ltd (PLANET-THREE4-DOM)
    3A West Point
    Warple Way
    London, London W3 0RG
    UK

    Domain Name: PLANET-THREE.NET

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
    Registration, Domain (RD696-ORG) domreg@PLANET-THREE.NET
    0870 729 5444
    Fax- 0870 729 5445
    Billing Contact:
    Departmet, Accounts (DA11900-OR) billing@PLANET-THREE.NET
    0870 729 5444
    Fax- 0870 729 5445

    Record last updated on 04-Feb-2000.
    Record created on 05-Jan-1999.
    Database last updated on 20-Feb-2000 12:45:15 EST.

    But the location of the DNS servers should not matter, because the DNS can map a domain name to an IP address that is located anywhere in the world. So you can keep your server in a cool and dry room without having to worry about the weather in the Christmas Island.

  • by Penguin ( 4919 ) on Monday February 21, 2000 @01:52AM (#1256822) Homepage
    Okay, who asked Santa last christmas for a free domain?
  • Name Planet gives you a domain name (well, something of the form firstname@lastname.tc) and mail forwarding for free: www.nameplanet.com [nameplanet.com]
  • Funny you should mention that, because a few weeks ago there were reports in newspapers (ie. people knew about it) about a website (with a .com.au address) that was able to escape the regulations simply by moving the server overseas. The ABA (the organisation that is supposed to manage the regulations) admitted there was nothing they could do about it.

    I need to stop using brackets damnit!
  • I just grabbed a domain, the registration is laid out nicely (can't comment on speed cause my net link is saturated DLing Redhat6.2 ;) my only gripe is that passwords are flying around in the clear.
  • A LOT!

    I'm not sure about tsx.org but cjb.net 'domains' are usually just forwarders (either using a Redirect header or by making a 100% size frameset). This is a real-deal domain! Hi-Ho!

    Jay

    -- polish ccs mirror [prawda.pl]
  • Do you know where they moved the server to and whether the server then became part of the regulations of it's physical location? Is there an on-line version of the newspaper article that I can read?
  • > But can someone explain why they have prices in pounds?

    The .cx NIC appears to be run by Planet Three Internet in the UK. I found this by visiting www.nic.cx and looking up nic.cx itself!

  • Try this Article [australianit.com.au]

    I would assume they didn't physically move the server, but just moved the content onto a server in the US.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Yeah, someone was generous enough to register http://www.goatse.cx/ [goatse.cx] already!
  • The Queen of England? Who's that then? Oh, you mean the Queen of the United Kingdom. Right.

    Anyway, Australia is as much of a real country as the United Kingdom is. It isn't ruled by the UK : it is ruled by the same person who happens to rule the UK. A subtle, but important distinction.

  • TLDs are quite expensive to enact. I'm not sure who pays, or how much (maybe someone could reply to this), but I don't think it's too easy.

    Even more interesting... who gets paid?

  • Isn't this passing off and therefore illegal.

    Unless of course Larry has a wicked sense of humour and does like to Troll /. which I most seriously hope is not true.

    I know that it's not the usual thing for Slashdot to censor but maybe this would be one case where it is fiscally the right thing to do.

  • What about dyndns.org [dyndns.org]?

    --

  • Wonder how long it'll take before we see "openwarez.cx" and "freeisos.cx" coming up abusing their service. "My site is open source!" Heh...
  • I must apologize for referring to Mr. Malda as "Captain Taco" in previous statements. I received over a dozen letters from Slash-dotters like yourselves informing me of my mistake, which brings me to this point: I encourage you to let me know your opinions (and correct me if I misspeak).

    Funny..i always thought his name was "Commander Taco"
  • by trims ( 10010 ) on Monday February 21, 2000 @03:16AM (#1256838) Homepage

    Darn. Now I'm feeling old.

    Not to be a complete wet blanket, but am I the only one that thinks using domain names as resource locators is wrong? I appreciate what they're doing, but in the end, we're not helping things by propogating the idea that a domain name must be inherently attached to something (often, the ONLY thing) it's named after?

    Almost all of our DNS problems come from the misguided attempt of people to solve the "location" problem via domain names. People, that's not what DNS is for, period, end of argument.

    Instead of caving to the masses, why aren't we working towards the real solution, a Content Registration System. Yahoo and all the portals are the first step, but really, folks, they're pretty primitive. The web spiders can no longer index the web (it's too big, and changes too fast). Rather, shouldn't we have some central place for people to register their sites? By that, I mean the content of their sites? And perhaps, provide periodic updates of their content indexes?

    Sorry for the rant, and I realize this isn't exactly on topic, but DNS is really creaking these days, and it's starting to hurt me. Plus, the current situation is just, well, sooooo unaesthetic.

    -Erik

  • When reading the comments below, it is easy to see what effect this has had. A lot of people have discovered the .cx domain and registered - with real money, it seems. A smart marketing move, rather than just saying 'thank you' to open source. But then again, that is the way of our capitalistic society (and that's not something bad). Now for me, back to the social economics book....
  • Is it me and do I not get it, or is this ultimate freedom of speech, or is this the next thing akin to spam ?
  • So Christmas island is not a real country that belongs to a different non real country. I guess that would make it a meta-country.

    I don't think so. Webster's New Collegiate sez: "... used with the name of a discipline to designate a new but related discipline designed to deal critically with the original one".

  • From the above-mentioned article:-
    "
    Technically it would appear they have complied with the law, in that it is not hosted here," Mr Nugent said. "But to the end-user, it would appear that nothing has changed.
    "We are aware of the incident, and are looking at our options. It may be that all we can do is report it to the Communications Minister [Richard Alston]."
    Mr Nugent said the issue of DNS records being changed to point a com.au domain name to a US server was for domain name authorities to consider, not the ABA.
    "
    OK, so this sort of deals with the issue of whether or not net censorship extends beyond the boundaries of a country even if the site is registered with a geographically orientated domain and it looks like the porn site in question might get away with it in this case.

    However, does this imply anything as to whether people can set laws applying to business practices on the internet on a per-country basis. If the porn site in question was a non-profit making open access site, then I suspect that there is very little that the authorities can do, but presumably they can block the revenues from the site (if they really want to) thereby making the move outside Australian jurisdiction pointless (unless they move the company structure as well)?

  • They do seem a bit strict on adherence to the law, at least from their website. I clicked the Register Domain button & up popped a username/pass box so I clicked Cancel & got this:

    SECURITY WARNING

    Our server has detected an error which could be seen as a possible security breach. If you just made an error then do not panic - you need do nothing (see FAQs Question 1.1 for more information). However it could also be due to diliberate misuse.

    Attempts to access any information without permission are a clear breach of the Computer Misuse Act 1990. If you have just attempted an illegal access you should disconnect immediately. It is the policy of the owners of this server to report any unauthorised accesses or attempts at access to the police and ISPs.

    The following information has been gathered to aid in any criminal prosecution arising from any criminal act discovered:

    Your IP Address: xxx.xx.xxx.xxx (fx98104-c.maui.hi.rr.com)

    Time: 13:09 Feb 21 2000 GMT

    Browser and operating system: Mozilla/4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC)


    Nah, I'm not in Hawaii. I wonder if they've had any trouble in the past?
  • The Queen of England? Who's that then?

    The same person who's Queen of Scotland and Queen of Wales and Queen of Australia by right of succesion. Elizabeth II.

    Admittedly that SHOULD make her Queen Elizabeth I of Scotland, Australia, and various other countries, but that would just confuse the issue.
  • The same person who's Queen of Scotland and Queen of Wales and Queen of Australia by right of succesion. Elizabeth II.

    I'm not sure that's entirely correct; after all, haven't Scotland and England been one kingdom since the Act of Union in 1707? There might not be a Queen of England... but I'm surely not an expert. I'd like to hear a proper explanation from someone who was, though.

  • Actually, the link should be to this question [www.nic.cx].

    I registered a domain with them, and all worked well back when Slashdot first reported that they were up and running. They were free at first, but made it clear that a charge was comming. It looks like they intend for the Open Source project domains to be free forever, but I'd get that in writing if I were you....
  • Wales has never been regarded as kingdom in recent times (it was a principality). The Kingdoms of England and Scotland were abolished by the Act of Union, and replaced with the United Kingdom of Great Britain. There are no Kingdoms of England and Scotland any more, and there is no King/Queen of England or Scotland.
  • I would suggest that exercising caution would be the flavour of the day here
    Not meaning to defame the offer presented in any way; in fact this has less to do with free registrations at nic.cx [www.nic.cx] as it has to do with the premium ones.

    You see, as everyone on /. reads this, many of you feel the need to whip out your credit cards and buy yourself a little chunk of digital Christmas Island :) - but beware!
    The same time you are whipping out your CC, someone else may be whipping out their packet sniffer - mainly because they know that with a /. article there will be high traffic and more transactions than normal; leading to a greater chance of our parasitic little friend landing himself a catch.......

    Im not saying that Slashdot is full of these guys (and gals) just waiting to pounce but there maybe one or two - so just be careful.

    I would suggest waiting a couple of days for far better security ;)

    There, thats my little piece said, now you can all tell me how paranoid I am :))
  • am I the only one that thinks using domain names as resource locators is wrong?

    Not really. I'd tend to agree that a different system would be better (so Microsoft can't just take nameofanewbutimportantopensourceproject.org) - but right now, fact is that people look for name.com first - and almost all search engines give bonus points for the keyword appearing in the domain name. Since it isn't a really bad thing, it's maybe best to play with these rules until we can change them. ;)

    shouldn't we have some central place for people to register their sites?

    You mean http://www.freshmeat.net/ [freshmeat.net]?

  • Once in a while, having come up with an idea, and having to search the web to see if the domain name that describes the idea in all of its permutations (i.e. noun, verb, verb-noun, adjective-noun, noun-adjective, verb-adjective-noun, etc.), I think it is totally ridiculous, though it's a great exercise for the mind to think of all the synonymous/homonymous words/names.

    And certainly, all the domain-squatting may decrease a little.

    However, people are not likely to change this until there is deemed an urgency. Some well-intentioned people (much like the ones who invented the Internet, and the open-source community, etc.) will not sit passively and wait, and will instead actively plan on it.

    But then again, it's like one of those things that was a bad idea originally, but then becomes a feature because everyone is using it that way. It becomes the accepted norm, by popularity, and gets infused into the culture.

    My question is, how do you change things now that the Internet has gotten so much momentum? It's easier to change things if you are not changing directions so much (like all the versions of HTML - incremental changes that goes with the flow with little corrective steps). If it's going to be in a fundamentally different direction, even if it is the greatest idea in the world, it will face considerable probability of failure.

    and, it's only going to get worse, because the 'net's still growing!

  • by Kit Cosper ( 7007 ) on Monday February 21, 2000 @05:12AM (#1256857) Homepage Journal
    This is not an official post from Larry.

    There isn't a Slashdot Giveaway

    This is a bored individual who enjoys misleading people and generating unnecessary email.

    Official VA promotions will always be posted on the VA Linux website. [valinux.com]

    Sorry for the confusion that has been created.

    --Kit

  • I doubt it, because as far as I can see the domain servers are located in england, and thus would not be subject to these rules. Anyway, the domain servers wouldn't be the ones providing 'objectionable' content.
  • by QuMa ( 19440 )
    /me is the happy owner of var.cx, great service these guys give. I can really recommend them, they're a lot cheaper than .com too...

    Only problem (for me) is that you can't login over SSL, and they don't have (I do not like my pw going in plain text), and they don't have a pgp key for when you want to change your pw.
  • Prices are in pounds because the registrar is actually physically located in Britain
  • You all know damn right that this offer will be removed in a matter of weeks. When someone tries to do a "nice thing" for the public, the public is going to milk it for all its worth until it dies. Like they said in The Matrix: we humans comsume everything until there is nothing left, forcing us to abandon what we've acquired.

    A million people are going to want a free domain for a million different reasons, and after two weeks of being harassed, nuked, DoS'ed, and threatened, the poor organizers of this free parade are going to withdraw the offer.
  • Christmas Island was named by Capt. James Cook, who just happenned to spend Christmas there. (He also spent Easter on Easter Island, and named several other islands after dates).

    The reason that I know Christmas Island is that it is a mecca for flyfishers. The place is crawling with bonefish. These reflective-scaled fish move into the coral flats to feed on shrimp and crabs. When they hit a fly, they take off for San Francisco. They are a flighty fish and have good eyesight, so you have to know what you are doing with a flyrod in the first place, but bones are supposed to be one of the most addicting flyfishing species around.

    Needless to say, if the Christmas Island authorities want to hire some Linux guy to help set up their networking, I would gladly volunteer.

  • speaking of strict adherance to the law, I was having a browse round the IANA [iana.org] website, and I found this on the IANA TLD Delegation Practices [iana.org] page:-
    "
    (a) Delegation of a New Top Level Domain. Delegation of a new top level domain requires the completion of a number of procedures, including the identification of a TLD manager with the requisite skills and authority to operate the TLD appropriately. The desires of the government of a country with regard to delegation of a ccTLD are taken very seriously. The IANA will make them a major consideration in any TLD delegation/transfer discussions. Significantly interested parties in the domain should agree that the proposed TLD manager is the appropriate party. The key requirement is that for each domain there be a designated manager for supervising that domain's name space. In the case of ccTLDs, this means that there is a manager that supervises the domain names and operates the domain name system in that country. There must be Internet Protocol (IP) connectivity to the nameservers and electronic mail connectivity to the entire management, staff, and contacts of the manager. There must be an administrative contact and a technical contact for each domain. The administrative contact must reside in the country involved for ccTLDs. The IANA may choose to make partial delegations of a TLD when circumstances, such as those in a developing country, so dictate. It may also authorize a "proxy" DNS service outside of a developing country as a temporary form of assistance to the creation of Internet connectivity in new areas. [N.B. The IANA continues to receive inquiries about delegation of new gTLDs. This is a significant policy issue on which ICANN will conduct a careful study and review based on the established decision making procedures. Information about this study will be disseminated on the website at icann.org.] " (bold sections added by me)
    Now, I'm a little bit confused by this because I would of thought that Christmas Island is not a developing country and therefore doesn't need to have a "proxy" DNS service (although maybe its a practical problem of running a pipe out there) but why is it not possible to track down the administrative contact that is required to be an administrator for a ccTLD? The only physical address that I can find is:-
    Karinna Love

    Planet Three Ltd., 3A
    West Point, Warple
    Way, London, W3 0RG, UK
    from the CCTLD Database [iana.org]. Now I'm not suggesting that there is anything actually illegal or wrong going on with Planet Three, I'm just a bit confused as to why they are the administrators of the domain for Christmas Island and what everyone expects to get out of the deal? From the above text, it sounds like the "proxy" deal is only ever a temporary solution. When is Planet Three going to open their Christmas Island branch (to go with their London and Sydney branches)?
  • Hey Kit,

    How did you get a score of 4 without any moderation type showing? If my memory server me when Hemos and Roblimo post replies to stories, they start at a 'normal' moderation level and have to rely on the good will of the moderators at large.

    Have I missed something or is this VA correcting its public image with a special moderated account? I understand totally the motivation and personally cannot think of any other way of disprooving the fake Larry posts, but surely you should let the moderators notice your comment and moderate it up in the normal fashion.

    In fact, looking back at your past history, it seems that all five of your posts have started at a moderation level of 4...

  • dear lord help us all. i was in my mid chewing motion when i saw that picture.thank you once again!!!
  • Isn't this the same company that offered *free* .cx domains a year or so ago only to turn around and try to CHARGE people for them 2 months later? Yes, I think it is.

    Nice way to gather personal information to serve your real purpose.
  • Hi all,

    I originally posted this story after a friend who works at nic.cx told me all about it.

    First of all, nic.cx did not *suddenly* decide to start charging for domains last year. If any of the people claiming this actually read anything relevant they would have seen that in the FAQ nic.cx were *always* going to charge for domains.

    Next, this is not a two-week offer, it is going to run for as long as the cx domain does. Sometimes genuinly nice things do happen, look at <A HREF=http://www.granitecanyone>Granite Canyon</A> for proof of this. (For those not in the know, GC offer free DNS services).

    Finally, I must reiterate, nic.cx are NOT going to start charging for these open-source project domains. Not now, not ever.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Does Slashdot folks get paid by the amount of traffic they serve?

    That was my thought. But someone else suggested that it is Taco's attempt to "persuade" ACs to register.

    No point in complaining, IMO. Last weekend's "Geeks in Space" (the first and last I'll ever suffer through) convinced me of the futility of talking any sense into the people who run /. My thinking being: anybody who would put something like that on the 'net and not only claim responsibility for it, but be proud of it as well, are not people in any rational frame of mind. At least not on my planet :-).

  • Does the usage of a particular country's domain force you to abide by their rules, even if the servers are not physically located in the country in question?

    I can't imagine this being a significant problem. If you're not in the country, the worst they can do is take away the domain.

  • Yeah! Just started my own open-source project, OpenDIVX. At opendivx.cx, you can find out how to watch DIVX movies under Linux with your DIVX-ROM drive! OpenDIVX will do its best to attempt to not be sued by Circuit Shitty...er, City.
  • Her official title does include a lot of entries listed under QEI, though. She's QEII of England and Wales, QEI of Scotland, and then QEI of a bunch of miscellaneous backwaters *sound of me getting blown up by the irish*
    --
    "HORSE."
  • I sure hope that this offer doesn't go under due to abuse of their offer. Reminds me of the free pc story that was posted earlier. Sure the idea was good, and the execution was bad, but i think some of there undoing was the people who turned off their ads. "Mac's are fast, you just have to be patient."

    Well, the difference is that the PCs that were being given away cost $500 a piece, whereas it doesn't cost anything to add records to their DNS. (Of course, they have to pay for an administrator, etc., but the amount they pay doesn't vary with the amount of names they register.)

  • Occasionally Hemos or Taco will post something automoderated to score: 7 (Brilliant), but generally AFAICT they reserve that for joke posts.
    --
    "HORSE."
  • I know there are a lot of people that think that opportunities like this are, and always will be, abused by the idiots that cross the internet and web. But IMHO, i think the pros of this far outweigh the cons. It gives a lot of people out there the chance they need to get their open source projects out there into the community, and hell i think that going to http://www.myopensource.cx is a hell of a lot easier to find then http://www.blah.org/~asdf/asdf/asdf/project.html . There are a lot of good people out there that want to help the community as much as they can, and i think that this step will allow for easier access to projects and allow developers to contribute to the many many great projects that are being developed in the open source community. How about we put our paranoia's aside and just welcome this with open arms.
  • I first signed up with nic.cx over a year ago. In the FAQ section there was a statement about the service being free until they get there payment system set up.

    It looks like they got there payment system setup about 2 months ago. I had been paying for that year even though I could have had it for free.

    Has anyone found a TLD thats cheaper than $16.5US that .cx is charging? .cc is I think $60US for one year, .nu $35US +$7 for technical changes.
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  • D'oh!

    I guess that puts Uri Geller out of business though... should be a good thing.

  • I applied to get a free domain, but they won't give me one.

    I'm trying to start an open source project to relieve some of the stress that many programmers deal with on a day-to-day basis. I think that giving me rights to the domains open-butts.cx and open-sweaty-meat-curtains.cx will further the open source movement (especially the movement of many programmers pants to their ankles....)

  • It could start a whole new way of interactions from buisnesses to the oss community. Give us stuff and in return we will say good things about you and also give you our buisness.

    Why didn't Microsoft think of this? Oh yeah they did, its the only reason they ever got marketshare. :-)
  • There's a definition (I think) of this on the GNU web page. They provide a license list [gnu.org], and a section [gnu.org] on licensing free software. Note that this is only part of the philosophy page, so you may want to dig a bit deeper into there.

    Hope that helped.


    -RickHunter
    --"We are gray. We stand between the candle and the star."
    --Gray council, Babylon 5.
  • Yes, Mr. Coward, Her Majesty does in fact have some powers as the sovereign of both the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Australia. It is likely that if Her Majesty tried to exercise these powers, there would be a revolution, however technically the subjects of the UK are ruled by a monarch. Also, the Prime Ministers are not elected by the population, but appointed by the Crown. In recent history, this has always been the leader of the winning party, but in the event of a hung parliament, this may change.

    I'm not sure about the situation in Oz, but I'd suspect it is the same, with Assent being given by Her Majesty's representive, the Governor-General.

  • Emailed taco. Here's the official word on Kit.

    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:36:07 -0500 (EST)
    From: Rob Malda
    Subject: Re: Kit Cosper, +4, no reason.
    In-reply-to:
    To: Ed Fisher
    MIME-version: 1.0
    Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
    Original-recipient: rfc822;efisher@macalester.edu
    Content-Length: 457
    Lines: 11

    I don't know how that happened: he had his default points set to 4. Thanks for
    the heads up. He must have talked someone with DB access into giving him the
    bonus points. I'll look into it and make sure it doesn't happen again.

    --
    | Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda | Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no
    | malda(@)slashdot.org | match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
    | http://slashdot.org/ | --Han Solo, Star Wars



    Neato-cheeto.

    -ed fisher...

  • Having a real domain name is much cooler than any of that free nonsense. Not only is it easier to remember, but it shows that you are at least willing to shell out some bucks for your site.

    .cx is cool, in line with .cc and .nu, but none of them compare to .com

    ~~~~~~~~~
    auntfloyd
  • Well, the Open Directory Project [dmoz.org] tends to be more responsive than clapped-out old Yahoo, probably because it has 20,000 volunteer editors to maintain it. It currently holds 1.5 million sites, and it is used on Altavista, ATT-Worldnet, Lycos, Hotbot, Netscape Netcenter, AOL Search, and about 100 other websites, that we know of, under an Open Content license [dmoz.org]. See for yourself if you don't believe me.

    Disclaimer: I am one of those 20,000 editors.

  • by Caled ( 26214 )
    Interesting fact : 'cx' is the shortest domain name on the internet (although there might be other 2 letter ones around)
  • Hi.

    Just so everyone knows, I read the FAQ, e-mailed them, created an account, registered my domain, and was given my free domain name within 3 hours today.

    The person I e-mailed with was very nice. This is a wonderful service they are offering. I was using penguinppwered.com to forward to my IP address before, but had problems with them using my mail server a few times, this is a much better solution.

    What a nice gesture.

    Ben
  • Oh were talking about Australia but its not a real country either as its still part of the British Commenwelth and the head of Oz is appointed by the Queen of England.

    The British Commonwealth is a Commonwealth of Nations... and anyway, the words "head of state" aren't used in the Australian Constitution. The Vice-Regal, The Governor-General (Sir William Deane) has a purely ceremonial role, except in the event of the Federal Senate blocking supply, and is generally recommended by the Prime Minister, and approved by the Queen.

    The Prime Minister, the political head, is the elected leader of the party (or coalition in the present case) with the ruling majority in the Federal Lower House, the House of Representatives.

  • I could see .cx domains becoming sort of a international, non-commercial domain. No indigenous population and an ethnic mix means (hopefully) no intense nationalism and resentment over "foreigners" taking up .cx addresses. Maybe in a few years most sites with something real to say (instead of products to sell) will have .cx in their addresses...
  • You might also notice that all of these posts are identical, and in response to identical false posts being made by someone pretending to be Larry.

    I'd much rather spend my time on things more productive than rebutting fraudulent posts on Slashdot, but some extremely bored individual out there gets his jollies filling the pages with useless garbage.

    For the conspiracy theorists, if VA were exerting some level of control over Slash-dot [sic] don't you think Rob & Company would just delete the bogus posts by "VA Linux"?

    --Kit

  • There are differences between Christmas Island that is part of Kiribati and the Christmas Island in question.

    Like one is part of Kiribati and one isn't (its part of Australia)

    Oh, and one is in the Pacific Ocean and one in the Indian.

    So, almost everything you are saying is wrong.
  • Both the examples I cited are true.
  • cx is jointly shortest with the other 237 two letter domain names which represent each country in the world.
    The two letter abbreviations are defined by ISO 3166 [demon.co.uk]. The only exception I know of is that the UK has ".uk" instead of ".gb".
  • Well now nobody knows what to think. What have we got?
    • A poster who claims to be "Larry Augustin" who is posting "useless garbage" for whatever reason (and who consistently (justifiably) gets moderated down to -1).
    • A poster who claims to be from "VA Linux" who consistently posts directly after "Larry" discrediting the post with a mysterious bonus moderation score.
    • A poster who claims to be "Ed Fisher" who claims to have an email from someone who claims to be "Rob Malda" who denies knowing where these moderation points come from and that he will "look into it and make sure it doesn't happen again".
    • A defence of the rebuttal from "Kit" who has since lost his mystery points somewhere or other basically saying that he would much rather do other things "than rebutting fraudulent posts".
    • An awful lot of other people such as "Bruce Perens.", "A Hitler", "B Clinton" etc etc who also may or may not be who they are.
    Look. Does it really matter whether anybody says anything true of false on slashdot? Surely the moderation system is designed to let the slashdot community dispose of trolls in whichever way is seemed fit. Are you suggesting that we really believed that it was Mr Augustin who was trolling for slashdot? Don't damage the good work that Rob has been doing trying to defend his editorial integrity in the face of increasing pressure from people who would like nothing better than for slashdot to sell out so that they can sit back and say "I told you so". By all means feel free to defend whatever principles you believe in during your posts, but don't compromise your position by abusing the moderation point system. If your reasoning is valid then people will moderate you up, if not then there probably wasn't really a danger from "Larry" in the first place.

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