Journal FortKnox's Journal: Last Political Entry for a while... [Updated] 15
I'm in Ohio (yes, this whole dealio is partly my fault). Bush won by a margin large enough that even if all the absentee ballots and provisional ballots were all for Kerry, he'd still lose the state. Its over. Kerry shoulda done the honorable thing and conceded. Instead our already flawed electorial system (not a big fan of electorial colleges) is getting hit with yet another undemocratic practice[1]: Lawsuits.
Is all the presidential elections from this day forward going to be 'the loser will throw lawyers at the closest battleground state and try to change the vote'? And if your nominee won that way, would you be happy with it? Its a disgrace... do the honorable thing. You had a good run, didn't get the votes, so concede.
[1] the other 'undemocratic' practice that makes me upset is voter challenges. I know why they are there, but the way they are being used (intimidation) is very undemocratic and an absolute disgrace to the democratic way.
[Update]: I also wanted to point out what bltzu said: Nothing's gonna change. Our political system is made so that one person can't royally screw us over.
Looks like Kerry just conceded. Honorable thing to do, IMHO. I commend him for doing it.
Is all the presidential elections from this day forward going to be 'the loser will throw lawyers at the closest battleground state and try to change the vote'? And if your nominee won that way, would you be happy with it? Its a disgrace... do the honorable thing. You had a good run, didn't get the votes, so concede.
[1] the other 'undemocratic' practice that makes me upset is voter challenges. I know why they are there, but the way they are being used (intimidation) is very undemocratic and an absolute disgrace to the democratic way.
[Update]: I also wanted to point out what bltzu said: Nothing's gonna change. Our political system is made so that one person can't royally screw us over.
Looks like Kerry just conceded. Honorable thing to do, IMHO. I commend him for doing it.
Vote Challenging (Score:2)
Challangers? (Score:2)
Re:Challangers? (Score:2)
I could sit outside where you were going to vote, and tell the official in the office "I challenge bofh31337's rights to vote" and they basically have to do a significant check to make sure that you can A.) vote legally, and B.) vote in the precinct you are voting at.
There were challengers posted at highly affiliated party locations just pickin people out.
It wouldn't be bad if it required the challengers to provide proof up front. Its meant to b
Re:Challangers? (Score:2)
Where was it used for voter intimidation? I'd like to see a news report about that, because I havnt seen any so far.
sounds like they were (Score:2)
Last two homes - within a quarter of registering, I got to help with the less sexy branch of gov.
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Jury Duty lists aren't taken from voter registration lists. That's an old urban myth. They're taken from local tax records.
-Ab
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I received two jury summonses while I was still renting, so that can't be it. (The only local tax records here would be property-tax records, which renters don't directly pay. Nevada has no income tax.)
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It might be a PA thing. They get your original location every January when you pay your $10 occupation tax (right-to-work tax). They also keep up with it because of the school and local tax (which even renters and free-loaders have to pay).
I'm in the same boat as you, as my local municipality has no local tax, but I still have to pay the
-Ab
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Nice take (Score:2)
Good one, FK.
Ahh chill, out... (Score:2)
How about we wait to have the votes counted in DC? (Score:2)
The votes will be formally counted in DC in a few days/weeks, and THAT is the appropriate time for concession.
If we trust the polls on Election day, why not call for a concession on November 1?