Slashdot videos: Now with more Slashdot!

GTK+ has also been used as a strawman for X. The Wayland people have used the slow startup of the new gedit as their example of how X is slow, and they have used the network transparency problems with the new gtk+ to say that only "old" software does not spam the network with full sized bitmaps.
I wish Wayland the best but the fanboys who pretend that the bar for it to reach is set low are hindering it.

Another factor is nearby gas wells have lowered the local water table recently which changes how seasonal thawing happens on the spot, so "warming" should be taken literally as a matter of local conditions instead of a knee jerk assumption that the observer was blaming it on global warming so must be burned as a witch.

Why attack the aside anyway? Is the actual point too hard to deal with?

because something exists and is important to niche users, it must not be true that it isn't used "a lot?" Huh?

If you read my earlier post (about "attacking obvious examples of abandoned industries") after writing all of that you must feel really stupid for wasting so much of your time :)
You missed the obvious example AND got things wrong in your criticism when you got "hung up on absolutes" by taking it literally and not as an obvious example, Were you drunk?
Also why all the anecdotal shit when you can look up freight numbers that will correct it anyway?

So how does that GFC revisionism, even if by some magic it happened to be true, justify your crack about an entire race being lazy? There is a problem here that you should be able to identify with a mirror.

If you are going to go that far back should I start mentioning slavery and some bad American management practices that demonstrate that it's sorely missed? Will that hold up enough of a mirror to show how stupid your above comments are?

The US financial system fucked up the world's economy and the Greek situation, Spanish situation, Irish situation etc is an echo of it (because they blew everything on GFC bailouts and the cupboard is now bare), yet you have the gall to blame it on some sort of racial stereotype that is the opposite of reality. Greeks are lazy? You need to get out of your gated community.

In both cases it was listed as the most recent IE for Win7 - still just one click to infect all the users network drives.

To having Communists read your stuff.

Seriously, I was buying Lenovo before now. I did not get burned on Superfish. But I'm done with Lenovo. If this is what they try get away with without effort at hiding, then what they are they spending effort on hiding? I don't need the PRC in my network also, I have the NSA for that.

Hence my reply that witty doesn't do it anymore. Going with a group following a fad does. However not all fads are worthless and getting to max karma with dumb jokes like I did was a flaw in the previous system.

I don't know the mechanism, but IE as of 2015 is still just a single click away from infecting entire office networks with malware such as cryptolocker. Two recent events I've had reported to me were from clicking on an email link about parcel tracking (which opened IE, which then helpfully ran the malware in some way) and another to see an invoice (once again the two usual suspects of Outlook and IE).
I don't know if Firefox is immune to such a malware attack but I've only heard of it coming in via IE.

Slashdot today - where economists tell scientists, engineers and others that don't do fortune telling for a living to get a grip on reality. Pretty funny isn't it?

A decade ago it was easy - post a pile of crappy jokes and karma is up to 50 in no time. Now there's apparently no karma for jokes, so the easy way to get mod points is to say X is shit and Wayland is not just for phones and tablets sometime soon but can now do everything X can now. The easy way to lose points and attract foes is to politely point out that neither is the case. Pick another trendy topic like bitcoin evangelism for similar results.

Engineers think project managers and deadlines are a waste of time and a pain in the ass

It's because project managers used to be engineers instead of children with degrees in toga parties.

I disagree - no budget is going to help with time dependant issues or bottlenecks that cannot be "bought off". The most famous and trivial example is bringing a child to term - not happening any faster with ten mothers. Seasonal conditions are another. Production capacity of suppliers is another. Availability of staff is another. I'd say it's only really a major factor when comparing with projects with inadequate budgets.
Run three shifts and some time problems go away but not all of them.

If you want to call yourselves "engineers" without everyone laughing at you there is a need to do things like be able to schedule projects and not be afraid to put in conservative estimates for unknowns instead of what you think the boss would like to hear. If what it takes is a small pilot project to get even a vague idea of how long the real project will take then that's often a more acceptable option than stumbling in the dark until whoever is funding the project runs out of patience.
So, do you guys want to be like (or actually be) engineers or do you want to "shrug" on the job you are supposed to do and leave the time estimates to people with far less of a clue than yourselves. The latter way leads to "death march" projects and nasty ambushes where dismissal for lack of performance can come at an unexpected time simply due to others having no way to measure whether the progress to date is up to expectations or not.
Don't be afraid to take so time out to plot out a timeline and list dependancies instead of giving your boss an instant guess. An answer of "I'll have an extimate by time X" is far better than an instant wild guess of "finish the project by date X" before you've even checked who is available to do the work.