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Comment: Business search sadly broken (Score 1) 75

by istartedi (#47427077) Attached to: How Google Map Hackers Can Destroy a Business

Business search is sadly broken in many ways. Whenever I google for a service that I actually need, there are dozens upon dozens of sites at the top of the results. No doubt they're all SEO'd there. When you follow the links, what do you get? A boiler-plate script along the lines of $foo is an experienced contractor in $bar who serves the $locality area. In fact, he does nothing of the sort if he even exists.

The surveillatizing industry does a fantastic job of tracking us and shoving shit-ads at us for stuff we don't want.

And yet, when I'm searching for a service that I ACTUALLY WANT TO PAY FOR, I have to deal with all this dreck.

I figure it must be click-bait, since I've clicked on it because it's misleading. I have a couple ad-blocking methods running concurrently, so I almost never see 3rd party ads there; but I can't imagine what other motive there would be to provide absolutely useless boilerplate like that.

BTW, I guess you could extend this out even further to say that many things other than searching for a business are broken by click-baiters.

Take any question, really. "Who won the 1950 World Series". And although I haven't tested this yet, I'm willing to wager somebody has a site out there that will tell you something like, "The 1950 World Series is available on eBay. Click here to learn more about 1950 World Series products, etc..."

The AI that does this shit is usually pretty smart, but sometimes you get gems like, "The best cleaning products for your World Series".

Comment: Re:Turing test not passed. (Score 1) 261

by geekoid (#47424221) Attached to: The Lovelace Test Is Better Than the Turing Test At Detecting AI

Rigged isn't the correct word here.

Lowered the bar. Intelligent people know that progress is made with many small steps. So the lowered the bar to see if it could pass.
Next time the bar will be raised a little more.
You'll never have a person run a 6 minute mile if you don't have measurable competitions to motivate runners.

No, cleverbot did not do a better job and would have done worse on this test.

The test has real, applicable and logical reason for the way the measured it.

You seem to be comparing the actual test to what the media claims it was, and then blaming the test for not being what the media misrepresented.
You're right about the media, but the media is always wrong about science.

Comment: Theology now? (Score 1) 261

by istartedi (#47422209) Attached to: The Lovelace Test Is Better Than the Turing Test At Detecting AI

This business of the developers not knowing how it works. It reminds me of the question "How can God create a being that sins. Doesn't that make Him responsible?". One way to answer that is that God withdraws his authority within the a locus that we call the "soul". What happens there isn't his action. This implies that while knowingly taking actions that lead to wrong is immoral, withdrawing your power from a particular locus and opening things up to potential wrongs is not immoral.

It has nothing to do with intelligence though. The "soul" could be as dumb as a post.

Comment: Re:Already happened? (Score 2) 261

by geekoid (#47421679) Attached to: The Lovelace Test Is Better Than the Turing Test At Detecting AI

It's actual happened a lot, it's called 'emergent behavior'. The paper is old, poorly thought out, and written by people who want other people to think that are smart, but aren't actually smart enough to do science, you know: philosophers.

remember kids: philosophers are to science what homeopaths are to medicine.

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