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Comment Re:Backlash or opinion drifting towards the scienc (Score 0) 130

There is actually a relatively simple proof for that: LLMs are fully deterministic. Yes, many do include "randomization", but that is by PRNG and does only add the appearance of non-determinism.

This is a silly argument. If the source were thermal noise which is inherently nondeterministic it would make no difference.

First, by current Physics, thermal noise is deterministic. And second, it makes a difference for the mechanism of the proof. Hence your argument is nonsense.
And as a side-note, nobody actually knows whether putting in true randomness (by currently known Physics reserved for quantum effects) would make a difference or not. My proof would certainly not work for that scenario though.

Hence there is no mechanism for consciousness. Because consciousness can influence physical reality (we talk about it) even though it is completely unclear as to how that happens. But a deterministic computation always behaves the same, there is no outside influence. Hence it cannot have consciousness.

This is a meandering series of non sequiturs.

Nope. I guess you lack experience with proof theory or are not smart enoug to see what the claim actually is.

Comment Re:Backlash or opinion drifting towards the scienc (Score 3, Informative) 130

What is true and always will be true with LLM based tech is it will literally NEVER achieve what you refer to as the "conscious self". LLM do not have such a concept. They can not. It can have a sub agent to perform every conceivable task as a top level expert or better but will still not have any level of consciousness. Ever.

There is actually a relatively simple proof for that: LLMs are fully deterministic. Yes, many do include "randomization", but that is by PRNG and does only add the appearance of non-determinism. Hence there is no mechanism for consciousness. Because consciousness can influence physical reality (we talk about it) even though it is completely unclear as to how that happens. But a deterministic computation always behaves the same, there is no outside influence. Hence it cannot have consciousness.

I do realize that understanding this proof probably requires some ability to think idependently. Most people do not have that.

Comment Re:Maybe urge the use of good coders instead? (Score 1, Troll) 65

Nope, there is not. There are fake claims to that effect, but they are only claims. They have no scientifically sound basis and they are generally easily identifiable as misinterpretation of the data.

People that make "silly memopry use errors" are incompetent. They remain incompetent when using other languages. Of how do you think all those PHP or JavaScript security problems come into being?

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