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I for one welcome our new oil baron overlords More

I for one welcome our new oil baron overlords

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  • This is what "we" get for electing a president and vice-president who are part of the oil industry. Anybody who voted for them and complains about gas prices deserves a kick in the groin.

    • No, this is what "we" get for kowtowing to environmentalists who insist we add additives, with dubious benefit, to gasoline, thereby increasing the cost to produce gasoline.

      And it's what "we" get for not building any refineries, and not drilling in ANWR (though that's been corrected) to increase the supply.

      It's also what "we" get because of high federal gas taxes (18.4 cents / gallon), because "we" decided "we" need all those bloated gubmint programs.

      You do realize that when adjusted for inflation, ga

      • ANWR cannot possibly output enough oil to make a significant difference. We use over 80 million barrels a day, and I'd be extremely liberal if I said there was much more than 10 barrels of usable crude there. That means a total of 125 days. Tops.

        If we used it to supplement international oil and provide stabilization, it still wouldn't last more than 3 years.

        • .... and I'm going to have to ask you for a link that backs up your claim.

          Because the Dept. of Energy says that the mean is 10.3 billion barrels, with the possibility of 16 billion barrels. [doe.gov]

          This link says we only use 20 million barrels per day. [nationmaster.com]

          At 10 billion barrels, it's a 500 day supply, not a 125 day supply. No, it's not a silver bullet, but it will certainly help.

          ... refinement capacity is the larger problem until Biodiesel takes off.

          • Actually, you are correct. I confused the world's supply for our own supply. We consume about 25% of the world's oil, so 20 million sounds about right. I got the information about ANWR from a website who's stated goal was to promote the use of ANWR land for oil extraction (specifically, the fields about 100 miles west of Prudhoe Bay). Link here [anwr.org]

            ... refinement capacity is the larger problem until Biodiesel takes off.

            If it ever does; that isn't a sure thing.

            The biggest problem US leaders I suspect have

            • then we have Alaska all to ourselves, and we'll have effectively stifled the economies of more than one potential threat.

              India's government is democratically elected, and has good relations with the US Government, so I doubt we consider them a threat.

              The ChiComs? Definitely a threat, and you bring up a good point about them buying as much oil (and steel) as they can get their hands on. China is definitely a threat to start a war with the U.S.

              It's probably just a matter of time.

      • No, this is what "we" get for kowtowing to environmentalists who insist we add additives, with dubious benefit, to gasoline, thereby increasing the cost to produce gasoline.

        I think I understand what you're trying to say here, but it is still the Oil Barrons who are using the additives an excuse to gouge the consumer. If it weren't additives they would use another excuse for why gasoline costs more.

        And it's what "we" get for not building any refineries, and not drilling in ANWR (though that's been corr

      • It's also what "we" get because of high federal gas taxes (18.4 cents / gallon), because "we" decided "we" need all those bloated gubmint programs.

        You think 18.4 cents/gallon is high? Try Britain's $3.60/gallon [absoluteastronomy.com] tax. Sorry, but I'd rather see my money go into "gubmint" programs like road infrastructure than into the oil industry, which inflates their profits via collusion and price fixing.

        "Vote Democrat: It's Easier Than Getting Your Own Damn Job"

        Don't be fucking stupid. If you can't pull that off,

      • "No, this is what "we" get for kowtowing to environmentalists who insist we add additives, with dubious benefit, to gasoline, thereby increasing the cost to produce gasoline."

        What do gasoline additives have to do with the cost of home heating oil?

        "And it's what "we" get for not building any refineries, and not drilling in ANWR (though that's been corrected) to increase the supply."

        If it's been corrected, why do you bring it up? And the main reason we haven't built any refineries is because nobody wants the

  • ...that "big oil" is the main reason we do not have a good supply of alternative fuel vehicles. Just as Microsoft strongarmed manufacturers into shipping Windows and Office with every unit, I would not be even slightly surprised if Exxon, Atlantic Richfield, etc. has GM, Ford and the others by the shorthairs. Sure, they have politicians in their pockets, that is all but common knowledge - I think they have some kind of collusion going with automobile manufacturers too. This is speculating, I have no hard ev

    • Look for the "BP" advertisement on a 2006 Ford [ford.com] near you. Right there on the Gas Cap [ford.com].
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      • Fixed a water pump last month, I'm pretty certain now that the design of a vehicle has a priority not to fix stupid design errors that make you undress your entire front end of your car to fix your water pump so the cost of buying a new car is not so different then paying to repair your current one.

        Run on sentance for the win.

        I know they want to save a 1/4 inch more then last year, I'm saying they laugh at the priority to make the car easier to maintain.

  • Our Oil Baron Overlords are not "new". They have been with us, and getting gradually stronger since John Rockafeller's Standard Oil (then Amoco, then BP) was busted as a monopoly. Just after the bust-up, is the weakest the Oil industry ever was.

    The 1970s proved it, we want our oil, no matter the price. Add a smidge of Oil Baron presidency, and the decommissioning of the Exxon Condaleeza, and so much bubly crude that Colin Powell had to walk away from all the stench. Now, we are surprised?

    Sorry, just v

  • Government of the people* , by the people* . one nation under god**

    1a*People refers to stock holders in multi national oil conglomerates .
    1b** God refers to the oil conglomerates rather than the imaginary being .
    1c Government herein refers to dictatorship

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