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Comment Re: systemD (Score 1) 98

Debian had some early issues when they switched to systemd in the testing distribution, the one that you are not supposed to run in production or anything that you think of as important. But of course that's what people did. I have used Debian 8 now for a while and never run into something like that.

Comment Re: Dropping stderr and syslog messages... (Score 3, Informative) 572

The decision to drop stderr has made my life hell. I wish systemd guys understood how important it is to those of us that run servers.

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but there has not been any "decision to drop stderr". It's clearly possible to set where it should go:


Controls where file descriptor 2 (STDERR) of the executed processes is connected to. The available options are identical to those of StandardOutput=, with one exception: if set to inherit the file descriptor used for standard output is duplicated for standard error. This setting defaults to the value set with DefaultStandardError= in systemd-system.conf(5), which defaults to inherit.

Comment Re:Does it have systemd? (Score 3, Informative) 158

That there's no point in talking about "how Unix works" since Unix has never been consistent unless you're talking about some of the really old AT&T releases. Once there were multiple Unix vendors things started changing all the time. What we're seeing now in the Linux space is no different from what has always been the case.

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