Altough I use GNOME I think Gnome is more "bizarre" nowadays than KDE since they departed from the traditional desktop metaphore, but most new users I've showed the interface somehow get things done on Gnome.

I don't know however if it's packager fault but I always found KDE software less reliable than Gnome's (tried it on Debian, Slackware, and Fedora), specially after KDE4. Even with the controversy, most of what Gnome software offers to users work, for example Evolution. Last time I tried KDE (I think it was KDE 4 something, one of the latests) it's PIM suite would be awkward and never actually got it to run for some reason it also depended on MySQL, which I find quite bizarre. Outside of PIM many of KDE options would malfunction (sometimes bringing the whole application down) or not work at all. What's the point of promising the world to the user if all it's going to fall apart after a couple of clicks? I'd rather pop up a terminal and do stuff from there than having to figure out why the GUI of something doesn't work as expected.

As for the bloat, coming from a Gnome user seems hypocritical. Gnome sits idle on fedora at 1Gb of memory, so if KDE is bloated, Gnome it's also a pig. If you compare both with MATE or XFCE, they are both bloated.

This is innacurate, most Gnome forks were born from disagreements with the overall divergence with the traditional desktop paradigm.

No, I just answered your questions. That's why questions are made for, for answers. I found it funny how someone can be so angry at other people working on something.

Or perhaps they don't see it as an horrible mess and just disregard disrespectful people who come trying to impose their vision on them.

Contributing is just that, just contributing, not pretending becoming the boss of a project at day one because you know better than everybody involved in it.

You've dropped a Linux distribution that lets you choose the desktop at installation because you didn't like the desktop they ticked by default? You're clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Because it's easier to set up, doesn't get in the way, can be used easily with a keyboard.

- Yes is easy to use, my in-law uses it when she uses my brother's computer and finds it really intuitive.

- If you have good hardware is fast, otherwise you have a plethora of other DEs to use, including the previous version of GNOME now known as Mate.

- Pretty stable on both my desktop and laptop. In fact it has the best support for multiple monitors that I've seen on Linux so far.

- Well define unnecessary, if it's needed by the desktop to run, then it's not unnecessary. Yes you can go minimal with other WM, but you also lose quite a lot of features that Gnome brings: easy software installation, power management, fast file/program/document search, calendar integration and more. If you don't feel like you need any of that, well use another thing, or use Gnome and disable those features, it's easily doable from their control panel.

- The whole desktop focus around searching and it does a pretty good job at it, you basically press the super key, type something and open up the program/file you want, or write the mail for any contact you have. If you don't like that, well, don't use it, nobody is forcing you.

- Emoji is quite frivolous but very popular nowadays, not everything has to be "super serious" and if someone contributed that to the project, who am I to criticize.

- Well they are developing a popular Linux DE, they could also be ranting about other people's work on the internet.

Then use Mate which is literally the GNOME2 desktop you miss or KDE, or install a shiny theme, at this point I don't even know what you want.

- Gnome interface is hardly flat, there are flat themes, the default one is not. I'm suspecting you're just full of shit and never even used the damn thing.

- It seems you're looking for an excuse, just go and use Windows 10, nobody cares.

You forgot the "X is for Cows" part

I thought the same but good luck trying to explain that to a crowd.

RIP Ian

And for all the people sad because of the apple shortage, don't worry! we have a lot of oranges for you!

> Given all we've done in just the last 200 years, almost anything is possible given another 2000 years.

Including self-destruction

It's like they have dumped a lot of resources and money on Linux development and now they seek to make a profit of it HOW THEY DARE!

and I meant AES 256, yadda yadda

my mind isn't cooperating today, pretty much any semantically secure algorithm with a key space of 256 bits or more should be safe https://www.schneier.com/blog/...

DSA 256

They are what plants crave obviously.

Do you know if they're hiring?