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Comment Re:So Let Me Get This Straight (Score 1) 242

I use MS products every bloody day. We upgraded to a Server 2012 network last year, we run Exchange 2010, all our workstations run Windows, with Office on them.

I have to deal with its often inelegant solutions to automation and remote administration (seriously, at one point we had GUI "scripting"). Yes, they've built better tools than they had, but all those tools ever seem to do is demonstrate the old maxim; those that don't understand Unix are doomed to re-implement it badly. Even Powershell is just gawdawful hard to use, and while it's better than the collection vbscript files, batch files, registry files and the like that came before it, I still find the process of Windows scripting just dreadful.

Windows needs Bash and the standard Unix toolkit, badly. Yes, there might be some kludges here and there, but WTF is the registry but just a bunch of setting/value pairs in a hierarchy. We were using text-based tools ten years ago to manipulate it, building registry files or using CLI registry utilities. Binary data was a pain, to be sure, but most of the registry is all just plain text.

Comment Re:So Let Me Get This Straight (Score 1) 242

And it's not as if Exchange is easy. Yes, there's the brain dead configuration that comes out of the box, but if you want to do anything like advanced filtering it suddenly becomes very complex. We run Exchange 2010 where I work, and a few months ago I wanted to do some scripting on incoming emails to a specific mailbox. Certainly possible, but man oh man, between being forced to work in Powershell and the awkwardness of Exchange itself, I ended up implementing it on the Postfix server that sits between the Exchange server and the network. Postfix passes off the message via STDIO to my Bash script, I pulled out the attachments I need to save elsewhere for further processing, and it's been humming like a charm ever since.

Maybe some of it has to do with the fact that I'm a *nix guy, and it's more familiar terrain, but I really can't get over just difficult Powershell and Exchange can be, where the *nix philosophy just makes things so much easier.

Comment Re:So Let Me Get This Straight (Score 3, Interesting) 242

Gosh, what did we ever do before Windows 2000? Authentication by clay tablet?

It's the egocentric nature of MS's claims, that somehow computing couldn't be done without its products, that pisses me off the most. It denies an absolute vast amount of work done in these areas for decades before derivative technologies like AD even existed

Just like how Redmondites are doubtless cheering the innovation of giving Windows admins what everyone else has had for decades. This isn't a moment for pride at Redmond, but the moment when if fully recognizds just how shabbily it treated people stuck trying to do automation on its amazingly incoherent platform.

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