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Fish Found Living Half a Mile Under Antarctic Ice 78

Posted by timothy
from the we're-going-to-need-a-lot-more-line dept.
BarbaraHudson (3785311) writes "Researchers were startled to find fish, crustaceans and jellyfish investigating a submersible camera after drilling through nearly 2,500 feet (740 meters) of Antarctic ice. The swimmers are in one of the world's most extreme ecosystems, hidden beneath the Ross Ice Shelf, roughly 530 miles (850 kilometers) from the open ocean. "This is the closest we can get to something like Europa," said Slawek Tulaczyk, a glaciologist at the University of California, Santa Cruz and a chief scientist on the drilling project. More pictures here."

Comment: Tower of the winds (Score 1) 62

by giorgist (#48483003) Attached to: New Analysis Pushes Back Possible Origin For Antikythera Mechanism
There were other such devices such as the tower of the winds. The Greeks did not nessasary discover log the data from the heavens, what they did work out is that the heavens followed mathematical rules and so simple equations could be used to predict the behavior of the heavens and not the whims of the Gods. Hence you could convert the equations to gear mechanisms and off you go ...

Comment: Re:Let's do the math (Score 1) 307

by giorgist (#48453521) Attached to: Complex Life May Be Possible In Only 10% of All Galaxies
Standard argument from ignorance ... "hey look you don't know what you don't know so we might invent long enough ladders to be able to climb to the next galaxy". Well in fact you are wrong, we are fast advancing to knowing a fair bit or what can be known. I know it may sound familiar. What is well know is the cost of pushing the boundary of knowledge is growing fairly consistently. So in a century we will need half the worlds resources to learn 1% more where as now we need 10% of the worlds knowledge and a century ago we needed .1% of the worlds knowledge. Ultimately it might not be possible to cross into another galaxy much like it might not be possible to travel back in time to make two planets occupy the same spot with no ill effect ... but you don't know, there are still people working in garages.

Comment: $311 Million (Score 3, Interesting) 161

by giorgist (#48438235) Attached to: Mozilla's 2013 Report: Revenue Up 1% To $314M; 90% From Google
$311 Million and they are circling the toilet !! What are they spending it on. I am sure they can rationalise their team and their product range. If it is profitability they want, they should focus in that direction and is find out what made them profitable, which might not be what is bringing in the money. Note Google makes money by selling our analytics but it is their presence on other fronts which makes them a household name.

Comment: Re:Is Tax Avoidance Necessary for Success? (Score 1) 158

by giorgist (#48366975) Attached to: Apple's Luxembourg Tax Deals
So as voters do we trust those that represent us or do we trust those whose products we buy to run our country. Should we have government tax the wealthy and spend on social schemes or should we let the wealthy choose where to spend the money ? Its about effectively channeling societies resources.

Comment: You are measuring it wrong (Score 1) 182

by giorgist (#47898651) Attached to: The MOOC Revolution That Wasn't
If you have a shop and tens of thousands simply window shop but only a few hundred actually buy something you are a screaming success. The non buyers do not cost you anything. Why is a MOOC a failure if you get thousands that participate and hundreds of thousands that simply audit or don't even go past the first few videos. They are working them out but there is so much content now out there in the interwebs which can help people learn if they want to, it is a screaming success. Don't forget most people, say 95% simply need bread and circuses. The remainder now have access to awesome content whereas they normally wouldn't. It is a WIN WIN WIN scenario.

Comment: If we are not willing to pay .... (Score 1) 188

If we are not willing to pay for our news, they will have to get their paycheck elsewhere The same goes for our music and our movies. Investigative journalism is too expensive. They would love to be able to do that, but readers are swayed by other things rather than credible journalism.

Comment: Municipality the world over have a problem (Score 1) 190

Municipality the world over have a problem. People don't care. They don't see it as a local government but simply as a government department. This is an attempt to get people involved. So the fundamental question should not be "Online voting vs Ballot box" but "Online Votes Vs Ballot box votes".

Money is its own reward.