I have been engaged in a 2 day (or so) discussion with Pudge & nandorman on the topic of South Dakota's attempt to ban abortion. The conversation twisted and pudge & nandorman seem quite concerned that I am for some abortions and that I do not have an exact date where upon abortions can be performed. They cite logic flaws but the real issue as I perceive it is that pudge & nandorman are fairly religious and believe that life begins at the moment a sperm gets into an egg. Pudge hasn't mentioned religion at all, I simply suspect that is where this comes from. He cites the Civil Rights of the baby.
So my basic thoughts are as follows:
Abortion is the last in a string of bad decisions. While I'd never recommend an abortion - except in the cases of death to the mother, imminent death of the child, rape, and incest - I have no right to tell anyone else not to have an abortion. Lot's of things can be black and white, good and evil, this isn't one of them.
However, that said, partial birth abortions, late term abortions are absolutely positively out. That's murder. You are taking a baby and killing it. Sorry. That's what I think.
OK so when do I think abortion is OK? I'll be the first to admit I have a lot of trouble with this one. Without specifying an exact moment (and I will sort of later) I think when a baby is in the womb and cannot survive on its own outside the womb then it's sort of OK. I'm not really OK with it, but if this must be the decision made then make it when the baby stands no chance without the mother.
So technically I think we can go to about 16 weeks? I was hovering around 8 weeks in the above discussion and said 20-24 weeks but that number is far too high... that's totally a baby. You must remember I am not really for abortion, I just see that making it illegal is worse than making it safe.
My problems with the inception gang (I'm in the first trimester-ish gang) is that they reduce women to vessels for sperm. Walking incubators. Oh we mustn't touch the precious cargo therein. And IT IS precious...
And this is why you should flame me.
I'm on both sides of this issue.
I'm on the side that people need to be able to have abortion (EARLY TERM) on the table as a safe choice for the mother. AND I'm on the side that no one should EVER get an abortion because life and babies are terribly important and amazingly perfect and about the most human thing we can do... making more.
So yeah... I'm on the fence.
I think early term abortions are tragic but should remain legal. I think later term abortions should be banned.