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Comment Re:No, they shouldn't thow in the towel (Score 1) 144

The difference is most people dont go around shoplifting, murdering and defrauding. Pretty much everyone who uses the internet violates copyright every day.

Google "http", 15.2 Billion hits;
Google "all rights reserved", 4.8 Billion hits.

So almost one third of web content is illegal to browse.

Comment Re:Focus on what they do best (Score 1) 231

They need to fight the coming tide of walled gardens and closed systems

Agreed, i think they need a "free system" licence that articulates their "respects your freedom" hardware certification.
Bring out a licence that allows developers to exclusively work for those who care about freedom.
We need to accept that 'mere aggregation' is damaging to the future of free _sytems_, and can only ever lead to free isolated software components that form part of a system, with the choke points controlled by our adversaries.
(but yea, watch all the hate from the 'i just want free beer' crowd)

Comment Re:GPL enforcement? I don't want to be involved! (Score 1) 44

The distributed binary is just as free as the original binary.

No its not, the original binary with full source code could be modified if it has the full source code available, the secretly modified distributed version does not.

closed source does NOT limit other people's freedoms - they are, as I pointed out, free to use the same original source to make their own derivative

By the same arguments;
Slavery does NOT limit other peoples freedom - slaves might eventually become free man and become slave owners themselves.

so users have the same freedoms I have. If they don't have the skills, sucks to be them but I don't owe it to them to give them my source

If two people are living in a cage, one knows how to escape the other doest, do they have the same freedoms ?

Comment Re:GPL enforcement? I don't want to be involved! (Score 1) 44

BSD does nothing of the sort. It allows the user to do whatever they like w/ packages ... It doesn't make me a slavery enabling agent.

No it doesnt automatically make you a slavery enabling agent, but it does permit you to be slavery enabling agent.
You said it yourself, BSD allows users to do whatever they like.

Comment Re:GPL enforcement? I don't want to be involved! (Score 1) 44

If you create a closed-source derivative of bsd-licenced software AND DISTRIBUTE IT, the derivative is not as free as the original.
Users of the derivative are being deprived of freedoms that existed in the original.
They dont have the ability to modify the original parts of the derivative once its binary only.

And be honest with yourself, if you create a closed source derivative of BSD licensed software would you be doing it mostly for the benefit of yourself or for others ?

Absolute freedom is a fantasy, absolute freedom permits people to take away other peoples freedom (to have power over them), once that happens freedom is no longer absolute.

Comment Re:GPL enforcement? I don't want to be involved! (Score 1) 44

Freedom is about having control of your own actions, Power is about having control of others.

Permissive licences like BSD permit you to deny freedom to other other people, to have power over them.

Copyleft are called restrictive because it forbids you from having power over other people, it requires you to pass on the freedoms you where granted.

BSD doesnt force you to take power from other people, just like slavery didnt force people to buy slaves. But it happened.

Comment Too nice (Score 1) 44

Perhaps they are trying to be too nice, perhaps they shouldnâ(TM)t be trying to make friends of the corporations that choose to violate the communities principles.

Seems like they are going to make a choice between enforcing the GPL in a friendly way or not at all.

I respect their efforts very much, but i would rather see them become more militant, take as much money as they can get from the wilfully ignorant, and not be afraid of making enemies.

Comment Re:GPL enforcement? I don't want to be involved! (Score 2, Interesting) 44

The right for somebody to create closed-source derivatives is something that should be protected. Not protecting it is merely the act of taking away freedom.

Your saying your not free unless you have the right to deprive others of freedom...

The same arguments where used to justify slavery.

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