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Comment: Re:Big Data (Score 1) 159

by JWSmythe (#47717263) Attached to: Netflix CEO On Net Neutrality: Large ISPs Are the Problem

Technically, it's just where you're buying the connection. Netflix are already at a shitload of peerings.

AS2096 - 170 peers -
AS40027 - dead since Feb 23, 2012 -
AS55095 - 2 BGP peers -

So now I'm even more confused to WTF they're bitching about.

Comment: Re:Too subjective to be useful. (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47716543) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

I would like to see a real breakdown by...

I don't think that would be worth the effort. One sees enough cyclists in the winter, and the city has its own methods for judging use, that society generally considers biking a reasonable method of transportation even in winter and appreciate that the major bike routes are kept clear of ice and snow all winter long. Those who don't enjoy cycling, or prefer not to cycle in winter, can take public transportation.

... deaths in traffic

Helsinki bike lanes are separated from car traffic.

Comment: Re:Finns still love their cars though (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47715907) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

As I have pointed out elsewhere here, in the Helsinki metropolitan area people tend to own cars to get themselves and their children out to their second homes in the country (owning a summer home is a popular Finnish tradition), but they wouldn't actually drive the cars into the city: the cost of parking in Helsinki is horrendous, and petrol isn't cheap either.

Comment: Re:Another blow to Uber (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47715899) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

Why would anyone use a taxi to get around Helsinki?

Never been around Rautatientori late at night? When you have been drinking heavily with friends and want to get back home, but you are too drunk to walk, 1) it might be a shorter distance to the taxi stand than to the night buses, 2) the taxi drops you right at your door, you don't have to stumble home from the bus stop.

But yeah, only after some crazy nightlife have I ever used a taxi, and the same goes for every other young person I know. I have no idea why they would be used during daytime.

Helsingin Sanomat did report a couple of years ago that some people were operating illegal taxis. Maybe they were cheap enough that a group of people would find it preferable to split the cost of one of those than use public transportation to some obscure spot.

Comment: Re:which turns transport into a monopoly... (Score 2) 215

by CRCulver (#47715575) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

the EBT cards

That's not exclusively a city thing. Rural poverty in the US is extremely high. Much of my extended family back in the middle of nowhere Alabama has been on food stamps. Your welcome to go up to one of said relatives and tell them that thanks to being country-dwellers, they can eat the best steak around, I'm sure they'd love to hear about their supposed wealth of options when they can hardly buy enough food (crap food, the same as any metropolitan area in the US) to feed their families.

If someone starts doing that in a small town... very quickly everyone will simply know who you are and what you do. It doesn't work. The sort of criminal you get in small towns tends to be drifters... traveling criminals.

Besides the aforementioned backwater that marks the southernmost extent of Appalachia, I have extensively travelled in rural areas across Europe, Africa and Asia. Crime is a concern in many places -- you might not get mugged, but you can get burgled, or your telephone might stop working because someone cut down the copper lines so they could sell the copper inside. And it often can't be blamed on a drifter, but instead it's a member of the community that everyone knows. Many travellers can tell you of having e.g. a camera or notebook stolen in a village, and when the theft is reported, a group of the villagers simply walks you by the houses of the usual suspects to get your stuff back, because they know these people regularly steal.

You would be surprised how far meth addiction has spread in rural areas globally, from the Caucasus to Madagascar, and alcoholism has often been prevalent in some countries, and all that leads to much of the same crime anywhere.

Those same people would probably be a lot happier in small towns where they could at least feel like they are a part of a community rather then just a number in a machine.

As I've mentioned elsewhere here, it's important to look at the motivations of the population in question and not be so presumptuous as to speak for them. In the Finnish context, young people overwhelmingly want to move to the cities. You can talk all you want about citydwellers being just "a number in a machine", but they won't have any of it. I daresay the same applies for many places in the US. Everyone is not you.

Comment: Re:which turns transport into a monopoly... (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47715375) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

As to congressman... you have a parliament... in the context of this discussion is there a relevant distinction?

Entirely. Political horsetrading works quite differently in Finland than in your depiction of the US. People living in the country do not just want lower taxes and nothing else. There is wide support for state funding of physical and cultural infrastructure even among rural people; they want a lot of the same things you can find in cities, and building these things with state subsidies has proven to a help against depopulation of rural areas (though it may not be enough to stop all the young people from leaving). There simply isn't the same "red state"/libertarian versus "blue state"/redistributionist divide here that you suggest is true of American society.

As to runways, finland might be similar to Alaska in the US. They deal with that situation with sea planes and ski planes.

The north of Finland gets enough visitors seasonly that there has been a push to build better airports, not least from the local people whose income is heavily boosted by these tourists.

Comment: Re:a matter of scale (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47715247) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

I can commute farther in the state of California than the entire nation of Finland.

The maximum distance in Finland from north to south is 1,157 km. While it might be possible to commute on a regular basis in California, I doubt that a meaningful proportion of Americans would consider that particularly desirable. While perhaps not embracing public transportation, they'd probably want to be based in a suburb nearer to the commuting destination in questions where they would drive.

Comment: Re:Taixs are leases? (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47715123) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

You mean the fact that the American standard of living that is so high that most normal people own a car so they aren't limited by where some train tracks run or where the bus goes?

Car ownership is high in Finland (the exact figures have been quoted here in another comment), and people like to own their own cars to get out to their summer homes. That's right, the standard of living in Finland is so high that it's entirely normal for Finns to have a second home outside the city. Nonetheless, the majority of people would prefer not to use their own cars within the city, and are fond of getting where they need to go with public transportation or bicycles.

Could you have learned the bare minimum about the country under discussion before depicting it as a dystopia?

Comment: Re:Again with the bicycles (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47714935) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

I understand that for people who live in places that are warm year round, bicycles are a viable method of transportation. Where I live, there is ice and snow on the road for at least 8 months a year.

Helsinki has excellent bike infrastructure where the major thoroughfares are kept free of ice and snow during the winter. Lots and lots of people cycle to where they need to go in the winter, and -28 is a pretty common winter temperature. Further north, where winters are even more severe, I imagine that situation remains the same: Oulu has bike routes just as extensive as Helsinki, and I'm sure they wouldn't have done that if people weren't using them year-round.

Comment: Re:Now just force society to accept transit limits (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47714885) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

Right now society (jobs, business interactions, legal obligations, etc) are generally structured around the common denominator of automobile transit. Your boss expects you to get to work around the basic parameters of what you can do in a car.

American society, maybe. In the Helsinki metropolitan area, the topic of discussion, the usual way to getting to work is the train or metro. Even citydwellers who own a car don't typically use it, it stays in wait for rare outings to one's second house in the country.

I've worked in a fair few sites scattered across Uusimaa (the province in question), and never was there any expectation of using a car. Had I driven to work, my coworkers might have thought be odd; petrol and parking are simply too expensive for doing that on a regular basis.

Comment: Re:Cities: an obsolete solution (Score 1) 215

by CRCulver (#47714845) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

The Finnish state has already ensured excellent internet connectivity and cultural infrastructure (regional orchestras, good libraries) in rural areas, but it hasn't stopped the migration to the cities. The north of Finland is being depopulated so rapidly that the Finnish state has had to introduce subsidies to encourage people to stay put, but young people are drawn towards Helsinki and other cities in the south of the country. Drinking is a prominent part of Finnish culture, and when you've had a fair few drinks -- you might be so pissed that you can barely stand -- it's a lot easier to get to your home a few kilometres away than to go all the way back into the countryside because you made a temporary visit to the city for an outing. Furthermore, live music is very popular with young people -- a digital reproduction won't cut it when you want to go out with your friends to an arena concert -- and it's hard enough to convince musicians to come to Helsinki, let alone the countryside.

Finns are familiar with "country living" since most Finnish families own a second home in the country. However, while it might be pleasant to stay there for a month in the summer, few would want to stay there all the time. You might like the countryside, but you should respect other people's choices, and to insist that the countryside is universally better when the Finnish trend is so overwhelmingly directed towards moving to the city is rather creepy.

Comment: Re:which turns transport into a monopoly... (Score 2) 215

by CRCulver (#47714733) Attached to: Helsinki Aims To Obviate Private Cars

They just get it because their congressman felt he had to get his district something.

Finland doesn't have "congressmen".

Airports are not expensive to set up and maintain... especially small airfields. A dirt runway is perfectly servicable if the airport doesn't see much traffic. And a simple asphalt runway is no big deal either.

Finland has severe winters and de-icing of runways is a major task. A "dirt runway" here would be useless for half of the year.

As to roads, the interstate system was set up mostly for military reasons after WW2.

What does the US interstate system being set up after World War II have to do with Finland?

Have you been holding this rant on your demographics in the US bottled up inside for so long that you have to bring it into this discussion of a whole other country?

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