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Comment Re:How many kids died in Hiroshima? Nagasaki? (Score 1) 237

The question is whether to lay down your own life or kill someone to preserve it.

The U.S. invading Japan would've involed a LOT of U.S. soldiers dying. And maybe more Japanese, depending on how strongly they resisted, than the atomic bombings anyway (remember, those were just 2 cities, and we're talking about conquering the entire home islands).

I don't think it would be an easy sell to all the families at home if you told them that X% of their husbands and fathers had to die to end the war. Not that the public was informed about The Bomb or given a choice, but yeah.

Pragmatism ain't pretty.

Comment Re:Can we please stop tacking -gate on to the end. (Score 1) 225

It's not useful if idiots are constantly applying it to things that don't really warrant the label "scandal."

Whenever I hear -gate these days it's a pretty safe assumption it's something that is totally not worth the bother for me to inform myself about enough to realize it's overblown and really doesn't matter.

Comment Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (Score 1) 1051

It's a thought problem. What information you get out of it is more important than what your individual answer is.

What I was angling for wasn't calculating the two extreme outcomes such that they have an equal value; my point was deciding should you play the game at all. If you're crunching the numbers to try to arrive at a conclusion that logically involves the least risk/most payout, you're kind of missing the point.

Comment Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (Score 1) 1051

Again, smoking isn't really a communicable disease. I could see being in favor of prohibiting smoking IN PUBLIC just for second-hand smoke reasons, sure. If people want to give themselves cancer in the comfort of their own homes...good on them, I guess?

Idealistically, I am against government interference as well. But there are certain circumstances such as vaccination that really require the compliance of everyone able to do so. I don't like making exceptions either, but you have to.

Would you also be one of the people complaining about the government infringing your rights if you got infected with ebola and they quarantined you? They're infringing on my right to go outside and run around in a crowd of healthy people!

Comment Re:Still not buying it (Score 1) 1051

What I see is an arrogant, selfish display of superiority, and an utter disrespect for the basic human right of free choice.

To reference a common /. idiom, your "right" to not get vaccinated for no valid medical reason ends with my right to not be pointlessly at risk of contracting diseases we could (and did, for a long time) prevent.

Comment Re:An entirely typical argument (Score 1) 1051

I did feel pretty conflicted when people were complaining about being quarantined during the Ebola in the U.S. thing.

My idealistic side said, yeah, technically that's a violation of their rights.
My pragmatic side said, damn straight, that's what ya gotta do to solve the situation.

I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it.