Shadow Wrought's Journal: Vick's Indicted

Of course indicting and convicting are different entities. Since Vick can afford the best of attorneys it will make the case against him all the harder. The story is here, and they have links to past stories on their NFL page.

Dog fighting is, to me, one of the most reprehensible things a person can be involved with. If Pacman can be supsended a year before any charges are brought, I see no reason why Vick should be allowed to play under indictment.

If convicted...

[FortKnox]

... he should be expelled from the league. Drugs (like PacMan) hurt yourself. Dogfighting hurts other creatures for fun and profit. They should kick his ass out...

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[Shadow Wrought]

If I were Aurther Blank I'd cut him right now, screw the balance sheet. As for the League, I think they're current policy is that, as long as you have a clean record, they'll let the courts figure it out first. As someone pointed out on the radio, its kind of amazing that now Marcus looks like the "good" brother.

Just shoot him

[smooth wombat]

I have no sympathy for anyone who does something like this. Apparently the most recent allegation is he ordered the electrocution of a dog. I know we're supposed to be the smartest creatures on the planet and have sympathy for our fellow man, but, as already stated, I have no sympathy for these kind of people.

I apply this lack of sympathy to rapists and child molesters. Just get rid of them. We shouldn't have to spend the time or resources keeping them in jail, paying for their food, medicines, etc when

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[Shadow Wrought]

Agreed. I think the worst part of it is the amount of planning that goes into the acts of cruelty. Its not someone losing their temper and hurting their dog, they breed and raise the dogs to hurt them.

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[Shadow Wrought]

Apparently the dog-fighting culture in the NFL is larger than I think anyone really wants to admit. I know in reading some of the pieces revolving around this story that some anonymous players admitted to seeing whose dog was tougher. Which, while its certainly bad, is not nearly at the same level as Vick's involvement.

The gladiator comparison is quite valid. The US is the modern embodiment of the Roman Empire, and football, like the gladiators, serves as a distraction from a lot of societal ills. Whi

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[Sylver Dragon]

Yet we're surprised that he thinks keeping gladitorial animals for a bloodsport is okay?

Absolutely, when was the last time you heard of a football player being killed on the field? Moreover, having been killed as part of the game?
While football certainly causes injury and has a certain level of violence, this is kept under control and the point of the game is not violence. In fact, someone getting too violent is heavily penalized, and if intention that player is often thrown out of that game. Also, a

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[tomhudson]

Shooting would be too good. How about a 20 year sentence to picking up doggie poop in the parks while wearing a sign saying "I hate dogs."

After he's done his "rounds", order him to walk the dogs of shut-ins (with adequate supervision, of course - other dog owners with big dogs who won't take to seeing an animal mistreated - keep Vick on a short leash, as it were).

I'd add "find a pigsty for him to sleep in" but he's not fit to sleep with pigs.

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[Shadow Wrought]

Indeed. Sometimes there is a certain appeal to Biblical justice.

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[Shadow Wrought]

You make an excellent point, and its a position I considered before writing. I think that there are some cases, however, where the crime is either heinous enough or disturbing enough, to warrant supsension prior to the legal process. Since the NFL is not the government, they don't have the same constraints on them that the government does, so they can suspend him (as they have done during training camp). If a player had been indicted for kiddie porn, or directly involved in a homicide or rape, than I th