Comment Re: Nothing is free (Score 2) 35
The catch is that they collect data on all of your browsing habits and sell them to the highest bidder.
Submission + - "If Oberlin Won't Stand Up Against AI, Who Will?"
theodp writes: Writing in The Oberlin Review, Oberlin College student Kate Martin asks, "If Oberlin Won’t Stand Up Against AI, Who Will?" Martin begins: "As generative AI infiltrates our academic spaces more and more, liberal arts schools face a particularly troubling threat. Other types of institutions may be more focused on career preparation and, consequently, accept the experience of education as a means to an end. In that case, generative AI programs may be a welcome addition to the processes behind our academic products, so long as they streamline that process. But liberal arts schools are aiming at a loftier goal — one of thinking for its own sake, of growing our minds holistically, and situating our academic pursuits among a wider cultural conversation."
"As a student who quite literally signed up to follow this model of education, I found President Carmen Twillie Ambar’s statement about Oberlin’s emergent Year of AI Exploration deeply worrying. From its first line asking us to type a prompt into ChatGPT to discern its own greatness, it reads like a sales pitch. It frames AI as something omnipotent and inevitable: an emblem of innovation so juicy we need to overhaul all operations and reallocate funds just to step into its world of boundless potential. Let’s acknowledge the reality of the situation: Kids are no longer learning how to write, the planet is being sucked dry, and our collective value system about the very essence of creativity is buckling beneath the weight of the machine."
"Say we all learn to use AI 'responsibly.' What would that mean? When our entire job as students is to learn how to think, where would be a good spot to introduce an entity that is designed to think for us? The life cycle of a written product, from its onset as a spark in our minds to its final form as words on a page, is necessarily full of awkward stages. We push and pull at our ideas, wrestling with them through outlines and rough drafts, before they finally settle into a coherent shape. Well-meaning AI optimists see programs like ChatGPT as friendly companions that can smooth over the wrinkles in our path to well-packaged creative realization, without understanding that turbulence is precisely where our ideas and intellects thrive. Creativity is not throwing an idea into a void and watching it pop back out in neat, aesthetic form — it is a slow, embodied, iterative process that needs all parts of itself to function. Despite AI becoming more and more popular, Oberlin students, and, more generally, progressive young people in academia, are notably silent even as mental alarms are sounding in our heads."
"As a student who quite literally signed up to follow this model of education, I found President Carmen Twillie Ambar’s statement about Oberlin’s emergent Year of AI Exploration deeply worrying. From its first line asking us to type a prompt into ChatGPT to discern its own greatness, it reads like a sales pitch. It frames AI as something omnipotent and inevitable: an emblem of innovation so juicy we need to overhaul all operations and reallocate funds just to step into its world of boundless potential. Let’s acknowledge the reality of the situation: Kids are no longer learning how to write, the planet is being sucked dry, and our collective value system about the very essence of creativity is buckling beneath the weight of the machine."
"Say we all learn to use AI 'responsibly.' What would that mean? When our entire job as students is to learn how to think, where would be a good spot to introduce an entity that is designed to think for us? The life cycle of a written product, from its onset as a spark in our minds to its final form as words on a page, is necessarily full of awkward stages. We push and pull at our ideas, wrestling with them through outlines and rough drafts, before they finally settle into a coherent shape. Well-meaning AI optimists see programs like ChatGPT as friendly companions that can smooth over the wrinkles in our path to well-packaged creative realization, without understanding that turbulence is precisely where our ideas and intellects thrive. Creativity is not throwing an idea into a void and watching it pop back out in neat, aesthetic form — it is a slow, embodied, iterative process that needs all parts of itself to function. Despite AI becoming more and more popular, Oberlin students, and, more generally, progressive young people in academia, are notably silent even as mental alarms are sounding in our heads."
Comment Re:that vertical bar chart.. (Score 1) 38
Good catch! Copilot didn't "share its work" and I mistakenly assumed it was a bar chart rather than a histogram with an unfortunate choice of bar width and x-axis range for this score distribution. For comparison, here's a Plotly histogram makeover of the Copilot-generated chart with a bin width of
Comment Copilot Still Suggests There's No Problem (Score 3, Informative) 38
Copilot in Excel's October 2025 explanation of the IQR method it employs to suggest there are no outlier scores that a teacher needs to look at.
Submission + - In Copilot in Excel Demo, AI Tells Teacher a 27% Exam Score Is of No Concern
theodp writes: It's unclear what exactly led to Thursday's announcement that Microsoft will provide free AI tools for Washington State schools and professional development and AI training to teachers and administrators statewide in partnership with the Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction, the Washington Education Association, and the National Education Association. But WA state records do show that the WA STEM Education Innovation Alliance — which "brings together leaders from labor, education, government, and non-profit organizations" — was treated to a "Demonstration of Microsoft Education tool and the latest AI updates for educators and students" (video @2:11:00, slides-79MB pdf) by Microsoft Education Product Manager Mike Tholfsen at a March 2024 meeting. And a report on the future direction of the STEM Alliance unveiled at the Alliance's November 2024 meeting at the Redmond Microsoft Conference Center cited this earlier demo, noting that "Alliance members heard from experts across the AI field in Washington, including leaders from the University of Washington and Microsoft about how AI has the possibility to transform various job sectors and the education system."
The demo, which Microsoft's Tholfsen explained was a hit with the crowd at the Bett UK 2024 EdTech Conference (ppt, 220MB download), includes a segment on Copilot in Excel that is likely to resonate with AI-wary software developers. Not only does it illustrate how the realities of AI assistants sometimes fall maddeningly short of the promises, the demo also shows how AI vendors and customers alike sometimes forget to review promotional AI content closely in all the AI excitement. Here, the Copilot in Excel segment — which purports to show how even teachers who were too 'afraid of' or 'intimidated' to use Excel in the past can now just use natural language prompts to conduct Excel analysis. But even a cursory glance at the example shown should raise eyebrows, as Copilot advises the teacher there are no 'outliers' in the exam scores for their 17 students, whose test scores range from 27%-100% (apparently due to Copilot's choice of an inappropriate outlier detection method for this size population and score range). Fittingly, the student whose 27% score is confidently-but-incorrectly deemed to be of no concern by Copilot is named after Michael Scott, the largely incompetent, unproductive, unprofessional boss of The Office (Microsoft also named the other exam takers after characters from The Office).
The additional Copilot student score 'analysis' touted by Microsoft in the demo is also less than impressive. It includes: 1. A vertical bar chart that fails to convey the test score distribution that a histogram would have (a rookie chart choice mistake), 2. A horizontal bar chart of student scores that only displays every other student's name and shows no score values (a rookie formatting error), and 3. A pivot table copy of the original data but sorted in descending order, generated in response to a teacher's prompt to rank the data (although simply clicking the Excel ribbon's sort button would have yielded similar results). So, will teachers — like programmers — be spending a significant amount of time in the future reviewing, editing, and refining the outputs of their AI agent helpers?
The demo, which Microsoft's Tholfsen explained was a hit with the crowd at the Bett UK 2024 EdTech Conference (ppt, 220MB download), includes a segment on Copilot in Excel that is likely to resonate with AI-wary software developers. Not only does it illustrate how the realities of AI assistants sometimes fall maddeningly short of the promises, the demo also shows how AI vendors and customers alike sometimes forget to review promotional AI content closely in all the AI excitement. Here, the Copilot in Excel segment — which purports to show how even teachers who were too 'afraid of' or 'intimidated' to use Excel in the past can now just use natural language prompts to conduct Excel analysis. But even a cursory glance at the example shown should raise eyebrows, as Copilot advises the teacher there are no 'outliers' in the exam scores for their 17 students, whose test scores range from 27%-100% (apparently due to Copilot's choice of an inappropriate outlier detection method for this size population and score range). Fittingly, the student whose 27% score is confidently-but-incorrectly deemed to be of no concern by Copilot is named after Michael Scott, the largely incompetent, unproductive, unprofessional boss of The Office (Microsoft also named the other exam takers after characters from The Office).
The additional Copilot student score 'analysis' touted by Microsoft in the demo is also less than impressive. It includes: 1. A vertical bar chart that fails to convey the test score distribution that a histogram would have (a rookie chart choice mistake), 2. A horizontal bar chart of student scores that only displays every other student's name and shows no score values (a rookie formatting error), and 3. A pivot table copy of the original data but sorted in descending order, generated in response to a teacher's prompt to rank the data (although simply clicking the Excel ribbon's sort button would have yielded similar results). So, will teachers — like programmers — be spending a significant amount of time in the future reviewing, editing, and refining the outputs of their AI agent helpers?
Submission + - Microsoft to Kids: You Get AI! Your Teacher Gets AI! Every [WA] School Gets AI! 1
theodp writes: GeekWire reports that Microsoft is bringing artificial intelligence to every public classroom in its home state — and sparking new questions about its role in education. The Redmond tech giant on Thursday unveiled Microsoft Elevate Washington, a sweeping new initiative that will provide free access to AI-powered software and training for all 295 public school districts and 34 community and technical colleges across Washington state. The program is part of Microsoft Elevate, the company’s broader $4 billion, five-year commitment to support schools and nonprofits with AI tools and training that was announced in July.
“This is our home,” Microsoft President Brad Smith said at a launch event on the company’s headquarters campus. “A big part of what we’re doing today is investing in our home.” Smith said Microsoft understands the unease around AI in classrooms but argued that waiting isn’t an option. “I don’t know that it will be possible to slow down the use of AI, even if someone wanted to,” he said. In an interview with KING-TV Seattle, Smith added, "We're making a bigger commitment to this state than we are to any state in the country. [...] Above all else, we want to ensure that people can learn how to use the technology of tomorrow. That's the only way for our kids to succeed in the future."
The event on Thursday also included comedian Trevor Noah, the company’s “chief questions officer,” as well as Code.org CEO Hadi Partovi. Noah and Partovi both also appeared with Smith at the Microsoft Elevate launch event in July, where Smith told Partovi it was time to "switch hats" from coding to AI, adding that "the last 12 years have been about the Hour of Code [Code.org's flagship event, credited with pushing CS into K-12 classrooms], but the future involves the Hour of AI." Code.org last month committed to "engage 25M learners in an Hour of AI in school year '25/'26" at a meeting of the White House Task Force on AI Education that preceded a White House dinner for top execs from the nation's leading AI companies.
“This is our home,” Microsoft President Brad Smith said at a launch event on the company’s headquarters campus. “A big part of what we’re doing today is investing in our home.” Smith said Microsoft understands the unease around AI in classrooms but argued that waiting isn’t an option. “I don’t know that it will be possible to slow down the use of AI, even if someone wanted to,” he said. In an interview with KING-TV Seattle, Smith added, "We're making a bigger commitment to this state than we are to any state in the country. [...] Above all else, we want to ensure that people can learn how to use the technology of tomorrow. That's the only way for our kids to succeed in the future."
The event on Thursday also included comedian Trevor Noah, the company’s “chief questions officer,” as well as Code.org CEO Hadi Partovi. Noah and Partovi both also appeared with Smith at the Microsoft Elevate launch event in July, where Smith told Partovi it was time to "switch hats" from coding to AI, adding that "the last 12 years have been about the Hour of Code [Code.org's flagship event, credited with pushing CS into K-12 classrooms], but the future involves the Hour of AI." Code.org last month committed to "engage 25M learners in an Hour of AI in school year '25/'26" at a meeting of the White House Task Force on AI Education that preceded a White House dinner for top execs from the nation's leading AI companies.
Submission + - Amazon Prime Video Launches Personalized Bet Tracking and Odds View with FanDuel
theodp writes: As Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society and sports, Amazon News reports that when Prime Video tips off its 11-year agreement with the NBA on October 24, viewers will enjoy new levels of personalization, engagement, and broadcast quality with a comprehensive suite of interactive features and AI-powered broadcast enhancements — including personalized bet tracking — to transform how fans connect with the game.
Amazon News explains: "The personalized bet tracking feature presents a dynamic, real-time integration of betting information during live game action. When a fan links their Prime Video profile to their FanDuel account, their active NBA bets will be displayed and updated on the screen, along with relevant progress and won/lost status, providing an exciting new way to connect plays on the court with active bets. The bet tracking feature does not offer the ability to place bets directly on Prime Video. In addition to tracking personal bets, an immersive Odds View experience (available on supported devices) can be activated to present a rotating feed of live odds, lines, and probabilities associated with popular bets. This includes moneylines, spreads, totals, player props, parlays, game props, and more. The overlay adds context to the game and highlights how players and teams are performing relative to betting markets."
“Our partnership as the official odds provider for NBA and WNBA on Prime Video represents a significant milestone in how we connect with basketball fans,” said Mike Raffensperger, President of Sports at FanDuel in a separate FanDuel press release. “By integrating custom content into Prime Video's NBA broadcasts, we will enhance the fan viewing experience and connect with new audiences.” Danielle Carney, Head of U.S. Video and Live Sports Sales for Amazon Ads, added: “It’s important to partner with brands that are invested in enhancing the fan experience. We're helping to transform how brands reach highly engaged consumers. By prioritizing innovation and storytelling we can create unique opportunities for brands to connect with their audiences that are more meaningful.”
Amazon News explains: "The personalized bet tracking feature presents a dynamic, real-time integration of betting information during live game action. When a fan links their Prime Video profile to their FanDuel account, their active NBA bets will be displayed and updated on the screen, along with relevant progress and won/lost status, providing an exciting new way to connect plays on the court with active bets. The bet tracking feature does not offer the ability to place bets directly on Prime Video. In addition to tracking personal bets, an immersive Odds View experience (available on supported devices) can be activated to present a rotating feed of live odds, lines, and probabilities associated with popular bets. This includes moneylines, spreads, totals, player props, parlays, game props, and more. The overlay adds context to the game and highlights how players and teams are performing relative to betting markets."
“Our partnership as the official odds provider for NBA and WNBA on Prime Video represents a significant milestone in how we connect with basketball fans,” said Mike Raffensperger, President of Sports at FanDuel in a separate FanDuel press release. “By integrating custom content into Prime Video's NBA broadcasts, we will enhance the fan viewing experience and connect with new audiences.” Danielle Carney, Head of U.S. Video and Live Sports Sales for Amazon Ads, added: “It’s important to partner with brands that are invested in enhancing the fan experience. We're helping to transform how brands reach highly engaged consumers. By prioritizing innovation and storytelling we can create unique opportunities for brands to connect with their audiences that are more meaningful.”
Comment SRA Cards: 1960's Self-Directed Learning (Score 2) 124
Reminds me a bit of the instruction a Canadian co-worker described he received back in the 1960's at a school in a remote area. After successfully completing their self-paced, self-directed learning assignments (e.g., SRA Cards: A History of Programmed Instruction and Personalization), kids were free to leave the school building on their own and play hockey at a nearby pond or explore the surrounding area with classmates.
Submission + - Class Dismissed
theodp writes: CBS News has a TL;DR video report, but Jeremy Stern's earlier epic Class Dismissed offers a deep dive into Alpha School, "the teacherless, homeworkless, K-12 private school in Austin, Texas, where students have been testing in the top 0.1% nationally by self-directing coursework with AI tutoring apps for two hours a day. Alpha students are incentivized to complete coursework to 'mastery-level' (i.e., scoring over 90%) in only two hours via a mix of various material and immaterial rewards, including the right to spend the other four hours of the school day in 'workshops,' learning things like how to run an Airbnb or food truck, manage a brokerage account or Broadway production, or build a business or drone."
Founder MacKenzie Larson's dream that "kids must love school so much they don't want to go on vacation" drew the attention of — and investments of money and time from — mysterious tech billionaire Joe Liemandt, who sent his own kids to Larson's school and now aims to bring the experience to rest of the world. "When GenAI hit in 2022," Liemandt said, "I took a billion dollars out of my software company. I said, 'Okay, we're going to be able to take MacKenzie's 2x in 2 hours groundwork and get it out to a billion kids.' It's going to cost more than that, but I could start to figure it out. It's going to happen. There's going to be a tablet that costs less than $1,000 that is going to teach every kid on this planet everything they need to know in two hours a day and they're going to love it. I really do think we can transform education for everybody in the world. So that's my next 20 years. I literally wake up now and I'm like, I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I will work 7 by 24 for the next 20 years to fricking do this. The greatest 20 years of my life are right ahead of me. I don't think I'm going to lose. We're going to win."
Of course, Stern writes, there will be questions about this model of schooling, but asks: "Suppose that from kindergarten through 12th grade, your child's teachers were, in essence, stacks of machines. Suppose those machines unlocked more of your child's academic potential than you knew was possible, and made them love school. Suppose the schooling they loved involved vision monitoring and personal data capture. Suppose that surveillance architecture enabled them to outperform your wildest expectations on standardized tests, and in turn gave them self-confidence and self-esteem, and made their own innate potential seem limitless. Suppose what kind of 'mind virus' the Timeback of China, Russia, or Iran might incept. Suppose poor kids had a reason to believe and a way to show they're just as academically capable as rich kids, and that every student on Earth could test in what we now consider the top 10%. Suppose it allowed them to spend two-thirds of their school day on their own interests and passions. Suppose your child's deep love of school minted a new class of education billionaires. If you shrink from such a future, by which principle would you justify stifling it?"
Founder MacKenzie Larson's dream that "kids must love school so much they don't want to go on vacation" drew the attention of — and investments of money and time from — mysterious tech billionaire Joe Liemandt, who sent his own kids to Larson's school and now aims to bring the experience to rest of the world. "When GenAI hit in 2022," Liemandt said, "I took a billion dollars out of my software company. I said, 'Okay, we're going to be able to take MacKenzie's 2x in 2 hours groundwork and get it out to a billion kids.' It's going to cost more than that, but I could start to figure it out. It's going to happen. There's going to be a tablet that costs less than $1,000 that is going to teach every kid on this planet everything they need to know in two hours a day and they're going to love it. I really do think we can transform education for everybody in the world. So that's my next 20 years. I literally wake up now and I'm like, I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I will work 7 by 24 for the next 20 years to fricking do this. The greatest 20 years of my life are right ahead of me. I don't think I'm going to lose. We're going to win."
Of course, Stern writes, there will be questions about this model of schooling, but asks: "Suppose that from kindergarten through 12th grade, your child's teachers were, in essence, stacks of machines. Suppose those machines unlocked more of your child's academic potential than you knew was possible, and made them love school. Suppose the schooling they loved involved vision monitoring and personal data capture. Suppose that surveillance architecture enabled them to outperform your wildest expectations on standardized tests, and in turn gave them self-confidence and self-esteem, and made their own innate potential seem limitless. Suppose what kind of 'mind virus' the Timeback of China, Russia, or Iran might incept. Suppose poor kids had a reason to believe and a way to show they're just as academically capable as rich kids, and that every student on Earth could test in what we now consider the top 10%. Suppose it allowed them to spend two-thirds of their school day on their own interests and passions. Suppose your child's deep love of school minted a new class of education billionaires. If you shrink from such a future, by which principle would you justify stifling it?"
Submission + - Tech Companies to K-12 Schoolchildren: Learn to AI is the New Learn to Code
theodp writes: From Thursday's Code.org press release announcing the replacement of the annual Hour of Code for K-12 schoolkids with the new Hour of AI: "A decade ago, the Hour of Code ignited a global movement that introduced millions of students to computer science, inspiring a generation of creators. Today, Code.org announced the next chapter: the Hour of AI, a global initiative developed in collaboration with CSforALL and supported by dozens of leading organizations. [...] As artificial intelligence rapidly transforms how we live, work, and learn, the Hour of AI reflects an evolution in Code.org's mission: expanding from computer science education into AI literacy. This shift signals how the education and technology fields are adapting to the times, ensuring that students are prepared for the future unfolding now."
"Just as the Hour of Code showed students they could be creators of technology, the Hour of AI will help them imagine their place in an AI-powered world," said Hadi Partovi, CEO and co-founder of Code.org. "Every student deserves to feel confident in their understanding of the technology shaping their future. And every parent deserves the confidence that their child is prepared for it."
"Backed by top organizations such as Microsoft, Amazon, Anthropic, Zoom, LEGO Education, Minecraft, Pearson, ISTE, Common Sense Media, American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Education Association (NEA), and Scratch Foundation, the Hour of AI is designed to bring AI education into the mainstream. New this year, the National Parents Union joins Code.org and CSforALL as a partner to emphasize that AI literacy is not only a student priority but a parent imperative."
The announcement of the tech-backed K-12 CS education nonprofit's mission shift into AI literacy comes just days after Code.org's co-founders took umbrage with a NY Times podcast that discussed "how some of the same tech companies that pushed for computer science are now pivoting from coding to pushing for AI education and AI tools in schools" and advancing the narrative that "the country needs more skilled AI workers to stay competitive, and kids who learn to use AI will get better job opportunities."
"Just as the Hour of Code showed students they could be creators of technology, the Hour of AI will help them imagine their place in an AI-powered world," said Hadi Partovi, CEO and co-founder of Code.org. "Every student deserves to feel confident in their understanding of the technology shaping their future. And every parent deserves the confidence that their child is prepared for it."
"Backed by top organizations such as Microsoft, Amazon, Anthropic, Zoom, LEGO Education, Minecraft, Pearson, ISTE, Common Sense Media, American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Education Association (NEA), and Scratch Foundation, the Hour of AI is designed to bring AI education into the mainstream. New this year, the National Parents Union joins Code.org and CSforALL as a partner to emphasize that AI literacy is not only a student priority but a parent imperative."
The announcement of the tech-backed K-12 CS education nonprofit's mission shift into AI literacy comes just days after Code.org's co-founders took umbrage with a NY Times podcast that discussed "how some of the same tech companies that pushed for computer science are now pivoting from coding to pushing for AI education and AI tools in schools" and advancing the narrative that "the country needs more skilled AI workers to stay competitive, and kids who learn to use AI will get better job opportunities."
Comment 10/2 Code.org Press Release: AI is Hot-Code Is Not (Score 1) 2
Hour of AI: A Global Movement to Prepare Every Learner for the AI Era: A decade ago, the Hour of Code ignited a global movement that introduced millions of students to computer science, inspiring a generation of creators. Today, Code.org announced the next chapter: the Hour of AI, a global initiative developed in collaboration with CSforALL and supported by dozens of leading organizations. [...] "Just as the Hour of Code showed students they could be creators of technology, the Hour of AI will help them imagine their place in an AI-powered world," said Hadi Partovi, CEO and co-founder of Code.org. [...] Backed by top organizations such as Microsoft, Amazon, Anthropic, Zoom, LEGO Education, Minecraft, Pearson, ISTE, Common Sense Media, American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Education Association (NEA), and Scratch Foundation, the Hour of AI is designed to bring AI education into the mainstream.
Submission + - NY Times Podcast on Job Market for Recent CS Grads Raises Ire of Code.org 2
theodp writes: Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow., a NY Times podcast episode that discussed how the promise of a six-figure salary for those who study CS is turning out to be an empty one for recent grads in the age of AI, drew the ire of the co-founders of nonprofit Code.org, which ironically is pivoting to AI itself with the encouragement of — and millions from — its tech giant backers.
In a LinkedIn post, Code.org CEO and co-founder Hadi Partovi said the paper and its Monday episode of 'The Daily' podcast were cherrypicking anecdotes "to stoke populist fears about tech corporations and AI." He also took to X, tweeting: "Today the NYTimes (falsely) claimed CS majors can’t find work. The data tells the opposite story: CS grads have the highest median wage and the fifth-lowest underemployment across all majors. [...] Journalism is broken. Do better NYTimes." To which Code.org co-founder Ali Partovi (Hadi's twin), replied, "I agree 100%. That NYTimes Daily piece was deplorable — an embarrassment for journalism."
In a LinkedIn post, Code.org CEO and co-founder Hadi Partovi said the paper and its Monday episode of 'The Daily' podcast were cherrypicking anecdotes "to stoke populist fears about tech corporations and AI." He also took to X, tweeting: "Today the NYTimes (falsely) claimed CS majors can’t find work. The data tells the opposite story: CS grads have the highest median wage and the fifth-lowest underemployment across all majors. [...] Journalism is broken. Do better NYTimes." To which Code.org co-founder Ali Partovi (Hadi's twin), replied, "I agree 100%. That NYTimes Daily piece was deplorable — an embarrassment for journalism."
Submission + - Code.org CEO Rips NY Times for Stoking 'Populist Fears' Over CS Jobs and AI
theodp writes: GeekWire reports: "[Tech-backed nonprofit] Code.org co-founder and CEO Hadi Partovi ripped The New York Times for its latest report detailing how some computer science majors are having trouble finding work in the U.S.. In a post on LinkedIn, Partovi said the newspaper and its Monday episode of 'The Daily' podcast were cherrypicking anecdotes 'to stoke populist fears about tech corporations and AI.'"
"'Computer science and AI are still the best paying fields one can study,' Partovi said, adding a quote from AI pioneer Andrew Ng about how telling students not to study CS is 'the worst career advice ever given.' The podcast episode, titled Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow name-dropped Partovi and Code.org in a report about how a computer science education and guaranteed six-figure salary to follow was turning out to be an empty promise for recent graduates. The episode also calls out Microsoft President Brad Smith in reference to tech giants supporting computer science education."
Partovi also took to X, tweeting "Today the NYTimes (falsely) claimed CS majors can’t find work. The data tells the opposite story: CS grads have the highest median wage and the fifth-lowest underemployment across all majors. [...] Journalism is broken. Do better NYTimes." To which Code.org co-founder Ali Partovi (Hadi's twin), replied, "I agree 100%. That NYTimes Daily piece was deplorable — an embarrassment for journalism."
"'Computer science and AI are still the best paying fields one can study,' Partovi said, adding a quote from AI pioneer Andrew Ng about how telling students not to study CS is 'the worst career advice ever given.' The podcast episode, titled Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow name-dropped Partovi and Code.org in a report about how a computer science education and guaranteed six-figure salary to follow was turning out to be an empty promise for recent graduates. The episode also calls out Microsoft President Brad Smith in reference to tech giants supporting computer science education."
Partovi also took to X, tweeting "Today the NYTimes (falsely) claimed CS majors can’t find work. The data tells the opposite story: CS grads have the highest median wage and the fifth-lowest underemployment across all majors. [...] Journalism is broken. Do better NYTimes." To which Code.org co-founder Ali Partovi (Hadi's twin), replied, "I agree 100%. That NYTimes Daily piece was deplorable — an embarrassment for journalism."
Submission + - Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn't Follow.
theodp writes: "As a reporter who's spent more than a decade studying Silicon Valley's influence on American education," the NY Times' Natasha Singer tells The Daily podcast (audio + transcript), "I can say that the reduced job prospects for computer science grads this year represents a stunning breakdown in the promise that tech executives have made to millions of American school kids over the last decade. Silicon Valley’s promise to kids was if you just work hard and learn to code, computer programming will be your golden ticket to a high paying, high powered, high status tech job, and you will be more or less set for life."
But after a decade-long push for coding in the classroom that led to soaring CS enrollment, AI is The New New Thing and the times they are a-changin'. "I’m reporting on how some of the same tech companies that pushed for computer science are now pivoting from coding to pushing for AI education and AI tools in schools," Singer notes. "And we see Microsoft just announced an effort to provide $4 billion in AI technology and training to skill students in schools and community colleges with AI. Google just announced a $1 billion commitment for a similar AI education effort, and the crisis rhetoric is similar to the coding crusade. The country needs more skilled AI workers to stay competitive, and kids who learn to use AI will get better job opportunities."
"So, it’s 2010 all over again?" asks host Michael Barbaro. "Exactly," replies Singer. "So, I think we have the opportunity now to proceed more deliberately and think more clearly about what are the things that are most important for kids to learn, and not so much what’s best for tech companies."
But after a decade-long push for coding in the classroom that led to soaring CS enrollment, AI is The New New Thing and the times they are a-changin'. "I’m reporting on how some of the same tech companies that pushed for computer science are now pivoting from coding to pushing for AI education and AI tools in schools," Singer notes. "And we see Microsoft just announced an effort to provide $4 billion in AI technology and training to skill students in schools and community colleges with AI. Google just announced a $1 billion commitment for a similar AI education effort, and the crisis rhetoric is similar to the coding crusade. The country needs more skilled AI workers to stay competitive, and kids who learn to use AI will get better job opportunities."
"So, it’s 2010 all over again?" asks host Michael Barbaro. "Exactly," replies Singer. "So, I think we have the opportunity now to proceed more deliberately and think more clearly about what are the things that are most important for kids to learn, and not so much what’s best for tech companies."
Comment Re:link to the patent is missing (Score 1) 72
Data Processing For Visualizing Hierarchical Data Here you go - hopefully got the access rights correct this time!
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