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As if we needed any more proof that the communists and the corporatists are in cahoots and conspiring to commit treason against the United States, Lou Dobbs reported Friday that American multinational corporations such as Intel, Microsoft, IBM, and others have joined WITH the Communist China Lobby group in Congress fighting AGAINST the Department of Defense, who wants to restrict sending high technology there that could allow them to perfect their ICBM nuclear delivery platform.

This is not a partisan issue- it was Nixon who originally opened up trade with China, it was Clinton who expanded it, and Bush is just following their lead. But it is an EXTREME danger. The form of communism as practiced in China is little more than wage slavery- the grand majority of workers earn under $.50/hr, the minimum wage is $.34/hr, and a good many workers earn a mere $.20/hr illegally. The lobby likes to talk about "the market of a billion Chinese" to sell our exports to- but who the heck in China could afford a $189 Windows XP license?

But I do see the draw- our multinational corporations wish they could treat workers here that bad. And by moving factories overseas, they put downward pressure on wages and benefits that will result in exactly that situation. No wonder they're helping the Chinese- the Chinese are their hero, the example of what managment should be in their opinion.

Nobody who believes in freedom- either political or economic- should support this. There should be no question that when the choice is between trade and national security, trade should be shut down. But the Traitors will not shut down trade- instead they'll accellerate it. And we'll all pay the next time there's a fight over Taiwan- because it will be American cities being bombed.
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  • For what it's worth, I check for the label that says where a product was made. If it was made in China I don't buy it, simply because of worker conditions there.
    • Me too- but that's getting harder every day. Some items simply aren't made in first world countries anymore. I hear that Chinese LCD screens have become so cheap that the last TV factory in America will be shutting down soon.
      • True. It's also true that there are certainly other countries that produce the items that are becoming scarce in the US, but a great many of those countries have the same working conditions as China.

        In some cases, I'll just have to learn to go without I suppose.
  • The form of communism as practiced in China is little more than wage slavery- the grand majority of workers earn under $.50/hr, the minimum wage is $.34/hr, and a good many workers earn a mere $.20/hr illegally

    Why are we surprised when communist adaptions of capitalism are still heavily communist?

    I want to know how much it costs to eat over there, what services the government provides, and what happens to those that can't work.

    And, FWIW, if it's in the civil market, the military should expect it to show up
    • Why are we surprised when communist adaptions of capitalism are still heavily communist?

      Actually, what was surprising was that the communist adaptation of communism was so heavily capitalist- this treatment of workers is straight out of the very robber barons that Marx was looking at and decrying against. Sure, they get *some* free food, housing, and medical care- but there's a reason why the peasants are abandoning the farms in Eastern China and moving to the coastal cities by the millions. These slave
      • Believe you me, people ALWAYS find a way past idiotic restrictions. I lived in a soviet block nation as a (very) little child, my father was quite enterprising, I recall having a VCR despite it being "contraband" and worth being shot over... Strangely enough, we MOVED... and after ALL these years (nearly 20) since we've been here, I see it ALL happening all over again... and I can only weep, since this place was a brave attempt by those long dead, to provide a free nation to a world so sorely needing one.
        • And if even the free markets have restrictions? If nobody is making GPS chips without the divide by zero error in the middle of the Pacific, because it simply doesn't matter to any civilian purpose, and the Chinese aren't given their own chip manufacturing machines, how do they get it by the black market?

          Just an example- all our military is really asking for is that American multinational corporations actually bother to cooperate in protecting their own headquarters. We live in a world of brainless monke
          • Indeed, it is the fault of those with so much wealth, that money and human life doesn't matter... power does. And since the rest of us are slaves to the clock, forever selling our lifetime for money, the cheaper they can get us, the more power they have... simple as that. The more desperate the job market, the more power the psychotics above have over us.

            I think it is nigh time for a rebellion... too bad that even T.J. (I mean jefferson) wouldn't be able to move the slouches that make up america to action
            • Indeed, it is the fault of those with so much wealth, that money and human life doesn't matter... power does. And since the rest of us are slaves to the clock, forever selling our lifetime for money, the cheaper they can get us, the more power they have... simple as that. The more desperate the job market, the more power the psychotics above have over us.

              I think you mean sociopaths- corporations are quite rational within the confines of the regulatory world we've built around them.

              I think it is nigh tim
  • They are no more communist country, they are representing state capitalism, so it is no wonder to see state capitalist and multinational corporations start cooperating to enhance their market and world capitalism in fight with protectionists' block economy.

    By the way Japan was called state socialism during its rapid economic growth in 1970s. Now the storm of privatisation has been blowing very strong and in a transit to a corporate capitalism.

    • I'm not sure a purely communist COUNTRY ever truly existed- like capitalism, communism is at it's best when limited to small, local groups where the farmers, craftsmen and workmen have direct, in-person contact with the end users.

      Call that protectionism if you like- but the truth is we do the best job for people we know and we see in person, and do worse work when we are not as directly related to the sales chain, which ends with shoddy products with a poor value beating out better products on price alone.
      • I know what you mean and quite understandable considering the fact that where you are under right now. Here too there are many cooperatives -helping one another to produce, crop, collect, sell but it never be the main stream in our current economic system, or even worse the lesser and lesser those who are eager to aquire those costly products.

        On my way to workplace, there is a huge debris of cooperatives building -it is just ruins. The mainstream of economy has been heading for just opposit to what you thi

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