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Comment: Re:A few points of contention (Score 1) 242 242

1) Yeah. that's what I said. €1 billion/year just on adaptation.

2) Scientists expect somewhere between 2-6 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Models show something closer to the low end (see Pfeffer et al. 2008; Horton et al. (2008)), but they assume no changes in ice sheet dynamics, which is known to be an iffy assumption (Overpeck et al., 2006). Empirical techniques show something closer to the high end (see Grinsted et al., 2009; Rahmstorf, 2007; Vermeer and Rahmstorf, 2009). Planning for 4.5 is not really all that cautious.

Comment: Re:Separation of powers or the rule of law, anyone (Score 1) 242 242

by Layzej (#49980769) Attached to: Judge Orders Dutch Government To Finally Take Action On Climate Promises

See level has been rising for 100's of years.

for hundreds of years prior to 1800 sea level was falling. Now it is going up quite fast and accelerating: 20th-Century sea-level rise on the U.S. Atlantic coast is faster than at any time in the past two millennia."

Comment: Re:You have that backwards (Score 1) 242 242

by Layzej (#49980713) Attached to: Judge Orders Dutch Government To Finally Take Action On Climate Promises

If anyone on earth doesn't give a damn what sea levels are, and can engineer to work around them - it is the Dutch.

Just because it can be done doesn't mean it will not be costly. Sea level rise is expected to cost the Dutch more than €100 billion (US$144 bn), through the year 2100 just to take adaptive measures, such as broadening coastal dunes and strengthening sea and river dikes.

Comment: Re:Separation of powers or the rule of law, anyone (Score 1) 242 242

by Layzej (#49980495) Attached to: Judge Orders Dutch Government To Finally Take Action On Climate Promises

a lefty court might think

The court didn't specify a policy or a remedy, so it is hard to see how you would consider this a 'lefty' judiciary. You can't assume that just because the court accepts the science that they are 'lefty'. It is not universal that conservatives reject science or that those on the left accept it.

Comment: Re:We should do what GPS does (Score 1) 233 233

by Layzej (#49947059) Attached to: June 30th Leap Second Could Trigger Unexpected Issues

We're looking at an impact of shifting noon by about a minute over the course of an average human's lifespan.

Maybe not even that since leap seconds can be both inserted and removed as required depending on climatic and geological events. It could very well be a wash.

+ - Skeptics dare climate science deniers to take $25,000 wager.-> 1 1

Submitted by Layzej
Layzej writes: The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI) is throwing down the gauntlet to the Heartland Institute, a group that claims that global warming stopped in 1998, with a stark, simple challenge: If the 30-year average global land surface temperature goes up in 2015, setting a new record, the Heartland Institute must donate $25,000 to a science education nonprofit. If CSI’s prediction proves incorrect, and the 30-year average global temperature does not go up, CSI agrees to donate $25,000 to an educational nonprofit designated by the Heartland Institute. It is CSI’s intent to repeat this challenge every year for the next 30 years.

“The theme of Heartland’s climate conference was ‘Fresh Start,'” observed Lindsay. “By predicting that a new record average temperature will be set every year for the next 30 years, we are in effect giving them 30 ‘fresh starts.’ I fear that what we’ll all find, however, is that as temperatures rise and the crisis deepens, each ‘fresh start’ will grow more and more stale.”

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Comment: Re:There is no such thing as non-empirical science (Score 1) 364 364

by Layzej (#49857125) Attached to: Have Some Physicists Abandoned the Empirical Method?

It is seemingly paradoxical, but in New York it now snows less often and they get more snowfall: http://fivethirtyeight.com/fea...

I can't comment on the cases that you take issue with because you haven't provided sources, but it is possible that an area could expect more floods and more droughts as the climate changes.

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