The numbers given before (80 to more than 200 billion) have already been paid to the nuclear industry. The fuel rod tax does not even exist yet. I don't know how you can spin that into nuclear "in fact" subsidizing renewable (quotes or not) energy sources.

I agree in part. On the other hand the debt of the German state as a whole is 2,000 billion EUR, so it's not as if 100-200 billion are an insignificant amount at all. And of course you made that calculation for a mature state of the nuclear power production, when it already had secured a very important place in German power production partly due to earlier subsidization. Many of these subsidies were initial funding in a much earlier state, when the contributions to total power consumption were smaller. I'm too lazy to look up numbers and do the math, but the subsidization per kwh may have looked very different early in the industry's life cycle in the sixties, say - which would make more sense to compare to the subsidies per kwh for solar in its current early state.

There are also other considations, IMHO, which are not reflected in the studies at all, not even Greenpeace's. I wrote about it in a sibling reply just a minute ago, so please excuse if I don't repeat it here. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2876563&cid=40127223

I was not being dishonest. The guy I replied to stated that there are subsidies for solar as if such a thing had been unheard of for nuclear. I gave the link to the numbers such as I could quickly find, and it's anyones choice to do the math. I made no statement about comparative size of subsidies.

You are being disingenuous though where you wrote "even if we take at face value your Greenpeace studies". First of all i did not unduly acclaim the mentioned (singular) Grrenpeace study, but more importantly by using that phrase you try to discredit also the other study which came up with the lower (and acknowledged by the authors to be much too low) 80 billion result. This came from the DIW, which is a institution that is held in high regard and certainly not under suspicion of being too hostile to the nuclear industry.

The rest of your post is honest again and I don't dispute your numbers for subsidies per kwh. In fact they were partly in my link. The way I see it though, these numbers do no include all costs for nuclear power. Necessarily, because nobody knows what it will cost to dismantle obsolete nuclear plants and to store the remains. As I mentioned in a later post in the thread, there are no final storage facilities in Germany, and when they tried in Assen in Gorleben in endet in such disasters that nobody in their right mind has any confidence in the abilitiy of the nuclear industry to solve this problem. All we know is that it will cost many times whatever the amount the nuclear industry estimates.

Finally, not even the Greenpeace study includes the IMHO significant social costs of the nuclear industry. It caused, necessarily, a further concentration of economic and political power, and was one of the two significant excuse for the arms race in which the police forces engaged since the 70ies (the other being terrorism). It's not even possible to quantify the harm this has done to German civil society, and guesses will obviously be wildly different between persons depending on the political inclinations of whoever does the guessing.

In conclusion, I certainly don't doubt that mistakes were made in the subsidization of the German solar industry, and I am far from convinced that solar is a good way to go for countries like Germany. But never I never said I would.

No, I did not. I referred to a study commissioned by Greenpeace. The actual study is in the WP source, read it and spare me your ad hominem argument.

Absolutely. Not even the Greenpeace numbers fully account for that. Plus Germany still has no final storage facility for nuclear waste, and the previous attempts at storage (Assen, Gorleben) ended in costly failure. Who knows what an actual final facility might cost over time.

The German nuclear industry was subsidized by at least 80 billion EUR from 1956 to 2007 (and 3.7 billion in 2006 alone) based on extremely conservative estimates, but likely much more. A study commisioned by Greenpeace arrived at a number of 203.7 billion from 1950 to 2010. According to WP at least, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernenergie#Deutschland

Ubuntu Software Center does the job just fine

Jeez, did someone piss into your shoes? The story is about how linux does not get the app store. The OP says that it's not needed anyway. Big deal.

Read the OP again.

Bitching? The freakin' story is about how the app store is not available for Linux. The OP just said that it's not required for Linux anyway.