Tell that to all the people who have had their life hijacked after falling for a malware scam. .. But I guess that is done by 'cybercriminals' and you are not being paid to schill against them.

... And it's not illegal for many governments to force ISP's and telco to install no-warrent-required sniffers on all your telecoms.

One is HUGE threat to our whole society.

The other was (at very worst) a dumb attempt by a single engineer to bulild the most 'leet wardriving map ever!' piggybacked on a quite legit (and helpful to users by makign GPS work much faster) publically broadcast ssid collecting effort.

I can spot the difference.. can you?

Nothing to see here, nothing of note was taken, claims it was a seriuous attempt to intrude on anybody are laughable and most journalists writing on this subject are technically illiterate and working to a script.

A commercially derived attack from paid-for representatives of Googles opposition. If this is the best they can come up with after millions of dollars paid funding groups set up as sockpuppet attack dogs then I'm happy to define Google as safe.

Yawn.

(PS: I'm more concerned about why they are kept under such universal pressure from the MIC, presumably it's to force them to allow the Military/Right to snoop on Google's commercial, worryingly broad, data.)

Seriously; it has a atmosphere thousands of miles thick, with a fuzzy, boiling edge..

The margin of error on this is ludicrous.

Plus.. of course, it is continually boiling itself off onto space, so even if you could define a 'hard edge' to it, your measurements would become worthless in, say, a few million years ;-)

"So remind me again which one of us is supposedly trolling?"
Errr..
Well, since you asked for it; here is a reminder:
- Task for Today: Troll as a illiberal jerk.
- Task for tomorrow: Same as for today.
.. and repeat ad nauseum until you either grow up, or get a social conscience.

@cbiltcliffe;
Really really sorry for calling you a sockpuppet of this idiot!

"Awww, apparently I hurt somebody's feelings! I'd apologize, but then, I'm a trolling jerk"
- There, fixed it for ya.

Two things spring to mind.
1) 2 years later, and you're still trolling the same topic.. how sad is that?
2) You wrote the GP post anyway.. your postings from 2 years ago are, lets face it, not memorable to anyone but yourself.

Modern planes, and other transport/engineering structures, are moving to composites. Which are layered, printed, sometimes pressure baked and squeezed into form. But no longer forged on this scale.

While these machines are awesome, I've wandered along a car body stamping line and watched plates go from a flat sheet to a car door in 100meters, they are becoming less necessary to us. They will still be needed, of course, for some jobs where only such a monster can help, but I think the US should look on these as potential future museum pieces, with nostalgia for a bygone age of megaengineering, rather than a source of future industrial dominance.

"Why should they have to apologize to them"

One of the ways society identifies shit people, and their fanbois, is by the way they never apologise or show any signs of remorse.

He has no intention of getting smarter or learning. It's not on the agenda he has been told to follow.

I would not bet on that.. People, especially avaricious types, tend to buy the most powerful kit they can.. And since the cheapest jammers will be the ones that substitute power for subtlety I suspect there will be a 'evolutionary' phase as the more stupid jammers users learn the hard way about this.
Eventually word will get about and it will become a more localised an intermittent issue.