And that attitude is why you are going to lose.

They cant get their own designs manufactured on EUV machines built by a Dutch company, due to export restrictions placed on those machines by the US...

Which just means that China will develop its own independent capability.

And yes, that might take 10-20 years, but to China thats not a long time, thats just the time it takes - while other countries think about timescales in 5-10 year spurts, China has plans set out 50 years ahead. And China accepts that things take time.

So it really depends on what you mean by "fast".

Ahh no, services and software are not included in the trade deficit calculations for some reason...

So the fact that the world uses American cloud services, financial services and other things - yeah, not important, and you should definitely ignore the fact that those things alone flip deficits on their heads for most countries.

The US: "You arent buying enough from us! You need to buy more from us!"

Also the US: "You cant buy basically anything that you actually need, we forbid it - buy more cheap bulk goods that you can get from anywhere rather than the technology goods you actually want perhaps?"

It *is* the equivalent of a visa because it dictates whether or not you can travel to the US. If you cannot travel to the US, you cannot use your visa waiver privilege.

They can call it whatever they want, and you can fixate on the name if you want to bury your head in the sand.

There is literally no way to travel to the US currently without either an ESTA or a visa. At this point, visa waiver doesnt matter because its been nullified by the ESTA requirement.

"Hey, you no longer need prior permission to travel to the US, how cool is that!!! Oh, but you need to ask permission to travel to the US before you can use that privilege..."

Sorry but I disagree - an ESTA dictates whether you can travel at all, it does not fill the same role as an arrivals card because you are already in transit at that point, and arrivals cards also cover things like bio security, customs requirements etc.

With the expansion of ESTA to entry by land in 2022, you literally cannot present at any US entry point without having been approved first by the US government - if you do not have that permission, you cant use your visa waiver privilege at all, and the point of that privilege was that you did not need prior permission!

If you were eligible to get an ESTA, then you were eligible for VWP - without the ESTA existing you wouldnt be going to an consulate, you would just be flying/driving/sailing/walking/whatever to the US. And you still have the same likelihood of being granted entry.

My point is, the VWP is pointless because it was supposed to be a "you dont need to apply for permission before travelling" privilege for some countries citizens, and now it very much is a "theres no way to go to the US without applying for permission before travelling".

Effectively, you now need prior permission to travel to the US. Either its with an ESTA or its with an actual traditional visa.

Also, the ranking is flawed because most western nations these days require a pre-travel electronic authorisation of some sort, which basically is the equivalent to a visa (you cant travel to the country without one).

For example, the US has a Visa Waiver Program with many countries, which technically means you can travel to the US without applying for a visa.

But, since 2007 you have needed either an ESTA or an actual issued visa before you can travel to the US by sea or air.

And the ESTA requirement was expanded to travel by land in 2022, basically meaning there is no way to arrive at the US without prior approval - so in actuality, the ESTA is now a visa for the US, but not one which allows actual entry, just the possibility of entry.

Oh piss off.

Several of the manufacturers involved here either are, have been or will shortly be, involved in motor sports - where they will collectively spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year eeking out another 1% performance gain or efficiency gain out of an engine which is already vastly more performant or efficient than the engines we use as consumers.

These manufacturers can meet the regulations, they choose not to.

Yeah, I wouldn't want one of these if it were free.

This will flop.

> Come back when it's 3x3 and I'll buy one.

Yeah, but it will cost $1500.

She really does seem to be trying to speed run a redemption arc - hopefully no one actually falls for it.

One shipping charge from Amazon (whether thats covered under Prime, or is free or whatever) vs five shipping charges from buying from non-Amazon websites - no one offers free shipping where I live.

New Zealand.

Our Ebay alternative is TradeMe, and it sucks. You can use Ebay.com but Ebay forces most sellers to use Ebay Global Shipping, which charges high shipping and also applies import duties to *everything* up front, even when the item falls under the personal allowance for importing into NZ (I remain convinced Ebay are pocketing that).

Our Amazon alternative is MightyApe, and it sucks. At a pinch you can use Amazon AU or US, but its very hit and miss as to what products can be sent to NZ, and shipping prices are high.

So you presume to know why I moved and what my personal preferences are?

I definitely prefer a world where I can use them. Having used them for so long and then being forced to not use them cements that for me. And the alternatives have not got any better over the past 8 years either.