Riiiight.

So every state based EPA is nullified by the existence of the federal EPA?

No... California can (and often does say) "in order to sell X within this state, you must meet the following requirements..."

More often than not you hear of "California emissions" compliance, or even a label on a laptop charger that says "this product contains lead, a substance that is known to the government of California to cause birth defects".

Alas, many states do the same... and so long as they don't run counter federal law they can and will do it.

How widely are those lists shared (hint: not much)? I don't mean between carriers in a given country, but internationally.

So I report my brand new XYZ as stolen to my carrier... even if 100% blocked here, there are still ~190 other countries where it can be sold & used.

Agreed! Add to the list car, laptop, stereo, television, tablet, shoe and cheeseburger manufacturers!

Demand a kill switch for any purchasable device which can be stolen... now where did I put my pen so I can write my Congressperson... wait it's gone! If only it had a kill switch!

It wouldn't surprise me if /. user KrazyDave was behind the whole plot... and subsequently trying to plant false stories to divert attention.

Because the state guaranteed the transaction occurred with neither party killing the other

Last time I purchased something in California... I do not recall there being a bomb proof barrier between me and the sales person that had been built by the state.

Only if you are paying that much a month in gas... I try not to... and I drive what the state calls an SUV.

Heck, even over 5 years, the savings is *only* 10k, which only brings the effective price of the 40k car down to 30k... which is still more than most of us are willing/able to pay for something newer.

Jay Carney, is that you?

Nice idea in theory... the practice thus far doesn't fall in life.

Aside from the fact that the enrollment #'s (at both the state & federal exchange levels) are well behind schedule, good sized portions of the website still do not exist, like the payment system: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-29/obamacare-payment-system-to-insurers-delayed-by-months.html

No... the website was only the second blow from this horrible law... the first being the massive wave of insurance cancelations & price increases we've also seen over the last few months, mostly in the individual market.

Just wait until the other shoe drops next year and the unlawful postponement of the employer mandate runs out.

You use that word... but I don't think you understand it's meaning.

In fact... 'fascism' is a term that while not often applied to the current government, does pretty accurately describe the unilateral rule we have seen from this administration on this law (amongst other things).

Because the rightists who got you into this mess of for-profit healthcare and the poor can go fuck themselves are the reason you need to have universal healthcare in the first place.

Yes, so horrible that the for-profit healthcare system in this country created so many life saving & extending drugs and treatments

Oh what a horrible world it was before the ACA was passed... millions of dead poor people in the street, insurance companies rolling the dice and canceling policies just because they felt like it, and no one but the ultra rich able to have a quality insurance policy.

Just because rich douchebags feel entitled to gouging people when it comes to their health doesn't make it right either.

Except for those 'rich douchebags' aren't all rich... instead providing a service which many of us are willing to pay a pretty penny for. I guess you don't value your health/life or that if your family.

But don't worry, the Tea Party will continue to try to ensure that anybody who isn't wealthy won't be able to afford health care like the greedy bastards they are.

Wait... the Tea Party us full of a bunch of wealthy folks? Where do I sign up???

The tech's did not have that much time after getting the specs and have very limited QA time.

Oh? 3 years went by between the passage of the law and the launch of the site... how much more time do you think they should have had?

Why would the leftists who exclusively forced this boondoggle on us hold themselves accountable?

Why would one lose ones credibility because of that?

Wouldn't that depend on the type of porn? Given much of the viewing is done in private & away from the public eye... I'm sure many would not be keen on their particular preferences being widely known.

Feel free to remind me, though the changes in 2 years won't be that great. The GOP will likely control both the house & senate and the President will still blame them for everything that has gone wrong in the history of the world.

My point is that the technology aspect of bringing such a system up and having it function is a separate issue from the politics of whether the law is a good idea for the country or not. Do you really disagree with that?

Yes.

This isn’t a political discussion over the website or the law, nor is this isn’t a theoretical debate of "should there be a law passed to do X?" but instead a discussion over "A law was passed to do X, which also promises Y & Z... since it’s passages, X has not worked, Y & Z have turned out to be false, and we’ve also seen A through Q of negative side effects. Is this a bad or unworkable law?"

Again, we are not talking theory here, we are talking actual practice.

You'll note other than labeling the law as 'poorly thought out' and 'unworkable' I have purposely avoided going into many of it’s other negative consequences (with more still on the way) and just highlighting that the tech issues are just ONE side effect of the law, but keeping the focus on the site for now.

I mean, if they were bringing up an online lottery site that didn't work people...

Aside from the fact that you are not legally required to purchase lotto tickets, and if you were... depending on the state, buying lotto tickets directly from the lotto company (vs through the state/national lotto exchange) could prevent you from getting tax subsidizes to help pay for your tickets (one actual side effect of the law)... one thing just about any lotto system, music/video streaming service, or any large scale internet site you encounter has in common... is insane amounts of testing and gradual ramp ups to full production scale.

Guess what they opted not to do in this case?

Nice DNC talking points you have there... but like so often your type forgets the free choice aspect.

By carrying insurance I choose to subsidize those who may not live as healthy as I... and I can choose another carrier which may use different methods to encourage good health... or even choose to pay my own way... shame you assume that if such a person gets ill that they WILL end up in the ER.

Your system involves the strong arm of government demanding that I subsidize you and removes any choice I have from the matter.