As an Android user (and I dislike Apple for various reasons that have been covered to death here) I must give Apple credit here - they do seem to have done it correctly from the start.

It does seem Android included encryption in 2.3.4 but I was unaware of this: http://www.howtogeek.com/14195...

It seems android does have full device encryption (not enabled by default). It also has an option 'Clear storage' which "Clears credential storage of all contents resets its password"

I'm glad that Android is no longer lacking here.

I was retaliating to his poor behaviour, probably not the best form but not quite the same as his unprovoked insults.

No, I just didn't like his pompous righteous attitude and unnecessary insults.

There's more than one way to point out that someone overlooked a detail (or failed at reading comprehension) without being an arse about it.

Seriously - you're a tosser and a coward.

But thanks for pointing out what I missed.

Tosser.

Seems Apple have done it right, thanks for the heads up.

Obviously I'm rather ignorant regarding storage on iOS devices - I didn't realise that all data was encrypted by default (does that include images etc?).

That's a good start, but I doubt it over writes any data - this *seems* like a soft delete and I'd expect one could still get the original data (??)

It'd also be nice if Android had such a feature built in.

Yes true, there is that disincentive there.

As stated above this really should be an inbuilt OS feature - "Reset for resale"

It shouldn't take an understanding or knowledge of the intricacies of how the device works or how to properly erase data. It should be automatically done by the OS since most phone users do not know how to do it properly.

This may only be true in some warped utopian view of the world, but I expect the issue is not the automation or job losses, it's the disproportionate distribution of the spoils of automation.

If we're all fed and don't need to work then I don't see an issue with being unemployed - we can instead pursue personal pursuits for the sake of enjoyment etc.

If we're not all fed then their will be opportunity for employment in creating food for us to eat, etc.

I'm probably wrong, but it seems reasonable.

Absolutely - it's call redistribution of labour.

The labour that is now tied up making widgets (of questionable real value) are freed to use their labour for some other task.

This "it will create unemployment" argument seems to occur all the time and I'm yet to witness any significant long term real world unemployment event due to automation. I doubt we ever will.

Actually isn't it that around 25% of a device cost goes to royalties/patent costs?

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/...
http://www.digitaltrends.com/m...

No.

More to the point - how do they know that's the code they're running?

Unless they can compile their own binaries with their own compilers it could be all smoke and mirrors anyway.

What ROM is that? I'd be interested in improving the performance of my Tab 2.

The video in the linked article had more that a word on cost :). $499 for the 10", can't remember the other.

Here's a direct link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...