If YOU BUY crappy software that is further crippled by useless bloatware, that is on you. You don't have to buy crap. There are better alternatives.

No, Apple products just suck so equally for everyone that people get locked into the brand and don't know or care about the alternatives available to them. iPhone sucks for you? Deal with it until you can buy the new one. iPhone breaks? Get a new one, or keep using it with a shattered screen, like everyone else seems to do. iPod dies a young death? Buy a new one.

Apple makes decent stuff that looks nice in the same way a Honda Accord looks nice - it isn't offensive, or special in any way. But if you care to do a little research you can do much better in most cases and get more for your money. I'm quite satisfied with my LG phone (no need for an ipod), ASUS tablet, and Toshiba laptop - they all do everything a competing Apple product can do, they all do things MY way, they are durable, and I saved enough cash to take a vacation.

At least with Android phones you have a chance of getting something you'll like and will suite you, even if you don't do any research before buying. With Apple, everyone is in the same boat with the same crappy handsets that are locked-down the same way and crack equally easily, which comparison shopping can not fix. A cracked iphone screen seems to be the norm rather than the exception, as does complaining constantly about how bad your battery sucks, how small the screen, how bulky your Otter Box is, is or how poorly the latest OS upgrade works.

My Samsung Exhibit II 4G (T679?) was pretty decent in its day for a cheap android phone. Everything worked fine, the battery lasted me all day, and it fit great in a pocket. Plus it was easy to unlock and there was enough developer support that there were some pretty good ROMs for it. That said, I've found that high end phones suite me better and keep me from wanting to upgrade as frequently.

They sure are nice looking. I'm still quite happy enough with my Optimus G - enough to skip the G2 and maybe even the G3. How often has anyone had a smartphone (or any cell phone) they weren't dying to upgrade 18+ months after it was released? I was a budget/"free" phone user until android. Now I've learned that I will be much happier if I just shell out the dough and get a high end device (although I buy used a few months after initial release), rather than getting a crappy one and wanting to get rid of it in a few months.

Which is why he likes it and why he doesn't need to go onto an online forum and whine like a baby about it.

Even high end android sucks? I wouldn't say sucks, but could be better. As soon as I got my LG Optimus G I began flashing aftermarket ROMs, though the stock UI wasn't that unbelievably horrible. Of course that is not to mention LG's absolutely embarrassing track record of not supporting their own phones (even flagships) and not providing timely updates (Optimus G - is 4.4 even available yet? G2x - never even got 4.0, despite perfectly capable hardware. L9 - no updates, bootloader can't be unlocked.), but their hardware is generally very nice.

For me, trying aftermarket/third party firmware is easy and even a bit fun. If you hate bloatware enough, you'll figure out how to do it; if you don't care so much, you probably don't hate the stock versions as much. I will never again buy an Android phone until I know it can be rooted and unlocked - got bit with that once. If you don't think you can live with the carrier's crap on top of the manufacturer's crap, the most important step is simple: don't by a bottom-of-the-barrel phone, or it will likely have little to no aftermarket or community support. I'm currently using Cyanogen 11 nightlies on both my Optimus G and Nexus 7, and mostly loving it. Xda-developers.com is fairly comprehensive and can help any technically-minded person free their phone. Oddly enough, everyone I know with a Samsung S3/4/5 is happy with it as is.

Expansion, of course.

Nice trolling - calling people out because you don't understand what is going on, then using an insensitive epithet. Way to do it anonymously, loser. Claim your posts, turd face.