> i mean the STARTING price is the same as the Xbone, and that is for the LOW END bottom o' the line system? Really?
It's not reasonable to expect a non-subsidized, upgradeable (in the case of many of the models), open console to cost less than subsidized, locked-down hardware with a consolidated-to-be-cheap design.
The Steam Machines are only a bad deal if you are the kind of person that only buys few AAA games and don't want to take advantage the openness to do things like run services (ex. put a minecraft server on your box) and/or emulators for your old console games.
You'd have to hack around it with the usual solution (pipelight) for now, but NetFlix is re-writing their client to drop Silverlight and be fully HTML5. So, in the future it should work natively.
It would have to travel 4 miles an hour over every possible type of terrain. Better to just live in orbit.
If you have a Steam game that you can't play in Steam's offline mode, that's the fault of the people making the game, not Valve/Steam..
Valve gives devs a choice of how they want to do their DRM, and you have the choice not to buy games from the particular devs that don't meet your individual expectations.
But, if you'd rather buy a system with more locked down DRM and fewer games, more power to you. You also have the choice to not buy no games that use DRM at all, but then why are you reading a console thread... or is there some option of which I'm unaware?
^ My sentiment exactly.
Sony has repeatedly engaged in anti-consumer activity, so I see no reason to support them. I own all the last gen consoles, but I've had it with MS and Sony (and Nintendo's showing this round is not really compelling, IMHO).
I'm going to hold out for a really powerful Steam machine for the living room. Valve seems like a friendlier company, and most of us here probably already own over a hundred titles via Steam.
Microsoft patented (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&p=1&S1=20110153809&OS=20110153809&RS=20110153809) listening in on Skype calls for the same reasons.
The fact that you can plug a Knoppix thumbdrive into almost any system and get booted to a working GUI with sound shows that Linux hardware support is not only good, it's amazingly good.
Use Windows To Go (assuming you have an Enterprise license) and try getting anywhere near the hardware compatibility you get from Linux LiveCDs.
A lot of people think Linux has relatively more installation problems because it might have some install quirk on their hardware. Windows has quirks too - they've just been worked around by a 3rd party before and built into their recovery disk/partition. God knows I spent way too long getting reference drivers for wifi chipsets and printers back when my kids wanted Vista.
8 Catfish = 1 Octo-puss