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Comment: Re:Moot point... (Score 1) 188

by cold fjord (#47914613) Attached to: New Details About NSA's Exhaustive Search of Edward Snowden's Emails

Like every other part of the Constitution and the law the 4th Amendment has specific meanings. Unfortunately many people here fail to understand that and think it has unlimited scope and whatever meaning they can dream up and ignore the actual law. You aren't going to get it right like that.

Comment: Re:When the cat's absent, the mice rejoice (Score 1) 279

This particular fact is rife for abuse, because as far as the Courts are concerned it's very hard to be unsuspicious and black at the same time.

What a pity, I thought you had more on the ball than going there, especially since it is nonsense. Well, ... it's worse than nonsense.

The Check that keeps this power from being abused isn't that some third party with unique legal knowledge (ie: the Courts) safeguards the people's rights, it's that there's a paper trail and any officer who has a habit of arresting people for no damn good reason is gonna have to explain himself to his superiors.

I guess you haven't heard of the JAG corp, military judges and magistrates, military courts, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces, review of sentences, or much else involving military justice. Would it surprise you to learn you might be missing out on some inportant details?

None of that comes from the Constitution proper. It comes from statutes. And the rights granted under the statute are much more limited.

Members of the mlitary have Constitutional rights.

Comment: Re:Moot point... (Score 1) 188

by cold fjord (#47914339) Attached to: New Details About NSA's Exhaustive Search of Edward Snowden's Emails

If the NSA and federal government didn't change after the info was released publicly, why are they acting like an internal complaint might have made a difference?

If Snowden had actually identified a genuine legal problem it probably would have. The problem is that he didn't, and that is why nothing really changed. Snowden compromised the national security of the United States and its allies (UK, UK, AU, NZ, CA, FR, GE, SE, ES, IT, others) because of his personal vendetta based on faulty ideas.

Comment: Re:Good luck with that (Score 1) 857

by cold fjord (#47914267) Attached to: Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

You can play with punctuation all you want, but you are stuck with two clauses joined by an and. You're just traveling terrain we've already passed over, and nothing has changed.

I don't think you can identify what constittues honest discussion. What I bring to discussions is typically unwanted facts to puncture the BS coming from people like you. You are blinded to this by your fringe poiltics.

Comment: Re:Again? (Score 1) 188

by cold fjord (#47914163) Attached to: New Details About NSA's Exhaustive Search of Edward Snowden's Emails

Presumably Snowden, being an intelligent guy, kept copies of those emails he said he wrote and will be able to produce them one day.

I doubt it. If he had he would have produced them by now. There is no advantage to waiting.

His claims about making complaints are nothing more than a cover story, a sugar pill to make his massive betrayal of his country palatable.

Of course he betrayed your country too, but you would cheer him for that given your politics.

Comment: Re:When the cat's absent, the mice rejoice (Score 1) 279

Investigating his fellow Navy personnel he doesn't need warrants,....

You don't know what you are talking about. It is common for military investigators to need a warrant to search the property of service members. It isn't rare at all.

But you should be clear there isn't a universal requirement for warrants to search civilians even for civilian police. There are a number of exceptions in fact.

Comment: Re:When the cat's absent, the mice rejoice (Score 1) 279

Well, he didn't molest a child, did he?

Since this case is breaking new ground legally and it is working its way through the appellate process it may not be settled yet that what he did was meaningfully out of bounds.

When you milk it you shouldn't over do it.

+ - Extent of Antarctic sea ice reaches record levels->

Submitted by schwit1
schwit1 (797399) writes "Scientists have declared a new record has been set for the extent of Antarctic sea ice since records began. Satellite imagery reveals an area of about 20 million square kilometers covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent. Jan Lieser from the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) said the discovery was made two days ago.

"Thirty-five years ago the first satellites went up which were reliably telling us what area, two dimensional area, of sea ice was covered and we've never seen that before, that much area."

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+ - New Details About NSA's Exhaustive Search of Edward Snowden's Emails-> 4

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An anonymous reader writes "Vice News reports, "The NSA disclosed these new details about its investigation into Snowden in response to a FOIA lawsuit VICE News filed against the NSA earlier this year seeking copies of emails in which Snowden raised concerns about spy programs he believed were unconstitutional..... As part of this investigation, the Agency collected and searched all of Mr. Snowden's email available on NSA's classified and unclassified system. This included sent, received, and deleted email, both in his inboxes still on the networks and email obtained by restoring back-up tapes from Agency networks. Multiple members of the Associate Directorate for Security and Counterintelligence read all of the collected email. Additionally, given that organizational designators appear for each NSA sender and recipient for email transmitted on NSA's classified and unclassified systems, searches of Mr. Snowden's collected email also were done using the organizational designators for the offices most likely to have been recipients of any email written raising concerns about an NSA signals intelligence program. ... Those offices included the NSA's Office of General Counsel, the Office of the Comptroller, and the Signals Intelligence Directorate Office of Oversight and Compliance. Moreover, Sherman said, the NSA tasked the Office of General Counsel, the Office of Inspector General, and the Office of the Director of Compliance to "search for communications to or from Mr. Snowden in which he may have raised concerns about NSA programs." ..."The search did not identify any email written by Mr. Snowden in which he contacted Agency officials to raise concerns about NSA programs," ...""
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+ - Julian Assange's Lawyers Appeal Swedish Arrest Warrant Ruling->

Submitted by cold fjord
cold fjord (826450) writes "The Guardian reports, "In July, a Stockholm judge ruled that Sweden's prosecutor had sufficient cause to continue to pursue the arrest of Assange in order to question him ... No charges have yet been brought against Assange in Sweden, because he has not been interrogated by police regarding the allegations brought by the second of the two women. The prosecutor insists Assange come to Sweden for questioning over the allegations of sexual molestation and rape involving the women whom he met during a visit to the country in 2010. ... A spokesperson for Sweden's chief prosecutor ... added, Ny remained of the view that "Julian Assange has chosen to evade the criminal justice system by seeking asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy he should make himself available for interview and, if needed, trial for the offences to which he is suspected of in Sweden." Assange's lawyers argue that Sweden's prosecutor "is in gross breach of Swedish law" by not travelling to London to interrogate Assange. ... The case will now go to the court of appeal. .... Sweden is in the final days of a closely fought general election campaign in which feminist demands have had a high profile on the left and the right.""
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Comment: Re:When the cat's absent, the mice rejoice (Score 1) 279

Yes, I'll elaborate. You omitted something which is what creates the misunderstanding.

At worst he seems to have exceeded his statutory jurisdiction in pursuit of actual crimes.

"Exceeded his statutory jurisdiction" != "agreeing with another."

Comment: Re:When the cat's absent, the mice rejoice (Score 2) 279

Everyone but you is construing your post to mean that the government investigators was OK to exceed his authority because child molesters are scum.

Not everyone is, no. But a certain portion of people posting are pretending that is what I wrote to suit their own purposes. It is a common problem, especially when you aren't going with the crowd and the mistaken ideas they may have on any particular subject.

When you call enough people idiots for misunderstanding you, you should start to think that you were perhaps unclear.

In an honest discussion with people making good faith posts based on reasonable understandings, perhaps. I'll allow that it does seem possible I may have overtaxed the ability of some portion of the Slashdot community by suggesting something requiring an "AND" to understand: child molesters are scum, AND the investigator exceeded his authority.

Unfortunately on Slashdot there is no shortage of straw man arguments, deliberately misrepresentations, axe grinding, grandstanding (I'll defend my misunderstandings of the Constitutions to the death!), and so forth. There are a range of other explanations from unsavory to far worse. Slashdot doesn't lack for pedophiles, defenders of pedophiles (as opposed to people holding a rigorous view of the law and civil rights), (selectively anti-government) narcissists, anti-Americans, anti-Semites, and people that hold extremist views or are otherwise from the political fringe.

Of course since I have regularly been mod bombed over the years for simply quoting the law or the news contrary to popular opinion, who can tell? Some people have made it clear in the past that they will mod bomb me whenever they have mod points, and I seem to be getting some "interesting" moderation today over a range of posts. On the plus side I haven't seen much in the way of death wishes today.

Or as the old saying goes "if everyone you see is an asshole, look in the mirror".

Don't worry, I already know I have some behind me too. But thanks for the tip.

Comment: Re:Problem? (Score 0) 279

Just to clear that up for you, Welch asked that because of McCarthy's abusive treatment, not because Communists weren't a threat. The Communists certainly were a threat, and you pretending they were an imaginary boogeyman doesn't change that.

There are enough bodies in the ground and missing limbs or scars on the living due to terrorists associated with al Qaida that we know they aren't imaginary boogeymen either.

As to sex trafficking and pornography involving children.... that's real too.

The so called "security theater" of the TSA has keep thousands of guns and various other dangerous materials off from planes, and it seems pretty clear that militants have tested the boundaries over the years just looking for an opportunity. Is it flawed? Certainly. Is it useless? Probably not.

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