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Comment: Re:Snowden threads: first few comments, same disin (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49186269) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

"Muddy the discussion"? You mean like having two opposing viewpoints represented? Having an actual discussion instead of choir practice? Well, that's the problem isn't it? Far too many people are here for choir practice instead of discussion, and a lot of that "music" is pretty crappy given the varous claims about geeks and "superior" intellects. Too few people post correct information about this and related topics.

And your crack about "same worn-out arguments" cuts both ways. Or at least you would realize it if you have any genuine insight. The right answer doesn't change just because you're tired of reading it.

Comment: Re:What I find unbelievable... (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49186183) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

A standing president tried to warn the American people about the Military Industrial Complex. What did that do? Not a damn thing. Should you be surprised? Not really. George Orwell warned you about all of this other shit over sixty years ago. No one listened. No one believed it could ever happen. And now it has happened. And there are no vehicles left for you to use to change or stop it.

Not many years before that warning the US devoted about 40% of GDP to defense spending. The long term trend of the percentage of GDP devoted to defense spending has been a long decline until today where only aroud 5% of GDP is spent on defense. That wouldn't happen if the "MIC" were all powerful as some people mistakenly claim.

There appears to be a gap between the facts of history and your theories.

Comment: Re:What I find unbelievable... (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49186137) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

If you're in their crosshairs, you'll get bagged, tagged and shipped off to Gitmo, which is what would have happened to Snowden if was caught before he fled.

There is essentially no chance of that happening. The only prisoners sent to Guantanamo were people known or believed to be members of al Qaida, or its affiliates. That doesn't describe Snowden. Or are you calling Snowden an al Qaida terrorist?

Snowden would end up in ordinary Federal court.

Comment: Re:What I find unbelievable... (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49186111) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

In a post above you made this claim:

What they ARE doing is building up a retroactive database of our information, so that its friends can comprehensively destroy us or our reputation at a moment's notice.

What you posted there doesn't seem to support that claim. Would you care to provide an actual example of that happening to an ordinary American (or Briton, or Canadian, or Australian, or New Zealander) with no involvement in terrorism or organized crime? Do you have in mind someone running or office, or what? There doesn't seem to be much to your claim.

Comment: Re:What I find unbelievable... (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49186059) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

The US is positioning US marines in Australia, fully armed and munitioned (so called firing range practice), as a measure against China .... Hmm, to me it sounds like more the number you would need to take over and occupy the Australian government parliament should they disobey.

You poor soul.

Australia counters Chinese threat
Ascendant China spurs increased military spending in Australia

There is a very large gap between your thinking and reality. Think of the Marines as a "trip wire" protecting Australia.

Comment: Re:What I find unbelievable... (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49185999) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

Have you failed to see how often a preferred ally of the US, suddenly becomes a distant ally, than a country of concern and finally a supporter of terrorism, as they refuse to obey US government dictates. Along with that goes regime change and bringing of US favoured 'er' democracy or autocracy or total chaos in order to remove actual democratic governments.

Most people fail to see that since it doesn't actually happen.

Comment: Re:What I find unbelievable... (Score 1) 112

by cold fjord (#49185959) Attached to: New Zealand Spied On Nearly Two Dozen Pacific Countries

.... I do believe that they lose all reason when it comes to pleasing the US.

Rather like many do when discussing ..... hating the US?

Well, there is plenty of madness to go around, isn't there? I seem to recall a certain faction of the NZ political establishment thought cozying up to the People's Republic of China was a better "fit" for NZ than allying with the US. I wonder what the people in Hong Kong would think, or the Philippines? Of course, what could possibly go wrong? What madness.

Comment: Re:Inquisition (Score 1) 393

by cold fjord (#49153939) Attached to: Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

John Schwartz reports at the NY Times that prominent members of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate are demanding information from universities ...

Its simple to get right. You didn't, and still haven't.

Comment: Re:Inquisition (Score 1) 393

by cold fjord (#49152205) Attached to: Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

And yet you still haven't successfully identified either the topic of the story or who the story is centered on. If you can't comprehend something that simple it's a safe bet that you don't have a meaningful understanding of the science of climate change, which leaves you in the cargo cult enthusiast category.

Maybe you should be planting trees, it would be more useful than your post, and it would keep you out of trouble.

Comment: Re:Inquisition (Score 1) 393

by cold fjord (#49143867) Attached to: Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

So you are claiming that George Soros is a climate scientiest producing climate models and studies that dispute various aspects of climate change in addition to being a currency manipulator, business man, one of the richest men in the world, and a left wing activist and financier? That is fascinating. I don't suppose you have any documentation to back that up, do you?

Comment: Re:Inquisition (Score 1) 393

by cold fjord (#49143819) Attached to: Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

Nope, its the people who have to listen to the same "experts" (who mostly aren't climate scientists) repeating the same arguments that disagree with the vast majority of actual climate scientists.

"Nope" ??? "Nope"?? I would call that a failure of comprehension. You do realize that the US government funds a great deal of climate research, right? And who approves the funding?? Who is it that is demanding the information?

... the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate are demanding information from universities, companies and trade groups about funding for scientists who publicly dispute widely held views on the causes and risks of climate change. In letters sent to seven universities, Representative Raúl M. Grijalva, an Arizona Democrat who is the ranking member of the House committee on natural resources, sent detailed requests to the academic employers of scientists who had testified before Congress about climate change.

I'm glad you managed to work the "Koch brothers" in there. It shows you're "serious." (eyes rolling)

Comment: Re:Think about it. (Score 0) 393

by cold fjord (#49138061) Attached to: Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

That might be insightful if it were true. Unforunately there are plenty of academics that are silenced by threats to their funding if they buck the (forced) "concensus". Witch hunts used to be concerned with brooms and cats, now they are concerned with models and views that don't conform.

Comment: Re:Inquisition (Score 0, Troll) 393

by cold fjord (#49137989) Attached to: Lawmakers Seek Information On Funding For Climate Change Critics

It isn't the "scientific community" that is making this demand, it is the people that fund the "scientific community" producing the claims regarding global warming ^H^H "climate change." You know, the "global warming" ^H^H "climate change" studies that are used to justify calls for the government to seize all control of the economy and society to "prevent" "climate change." They want to protect their investment.

I wonder how much funding George Soros and his cronies have into this now?

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