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Comment: Re:Why the fuck is this on Slashdot? (Score 1) 394

"Old news"? The main link was from today at a major Australian news site. The others were only a couple of days ago. That isn't "old news," especially when it hasn't been covered by Slashdot before. I find that a bit disingenuous. But it does fit nicely with an agenda to strip out the contextual information from the news which would tend to trivialize it.

By the way, do tell - what do you think my motives are since you think they are "pretty obvious"?

Comment: Re:Sigh... (Score 1) 394

Yes, that is just what the US has always wanted - a Black Sea port. Do you really believe that nonsense?

these would have ended up transitioning over the next few decades to either other European countries or to the US as having Russian bases in a NATO country wouldn't be acceptable to NATO or Russia.

Why? If Russia acted like an ally and friend, who would care?

Comment: Re:Why the fuck is this on Slashdot? (Score 1) 394

Certainly your conclusions are your own, but they apparently aren't very useful since they apparently aren't informed by an understanding of how countries and heads of state conduct foreign policy.

Of course I am willing to be persuaded. Maybe you could explain how your understanding is better or more complete than that of the journalists at the Moscow Times or the other major media outlets that have carried the story?

Comment: Re:Sigh... (Score 1) 394

Not forced into a corner exactly, but there are a lot of people who regard themselves as Russian living there and who he is expected to defend. Their government, whatever you think of it, was overthrown and they wanted to go back to Russian rule. Particularly in Crimea they were Russian citizens until not that long ago, and all of it was under Soviet rule until the late 80s.

The people living in Crimean and Ukraine are Ukrainian citizens, not Russian citizens. Some of them are of Russian heritage. That is a totally different question. Before you commit to Russia being entitled to invading and annexing territory where some of the inhabitants have ancestors that lived in Russia you might want to see if there is a lower limit to that since there are probably few countries on the planet without some Russians living in them. Is Russian entitled to annex them all?

Besides that, Russia hadn't ruled the Ukraine since 1917. It was the Soviet Union that ruled after than until the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Very few people living in Ukraine were ever ruled by Russia.

There is massive propaganda on both sides, but what can't be doubted is that Russia is making serious efforts to get a political dialogue going between the separatists and Ukrainian government.

Actually that can be doubted since Russian has hundreds of armored vehicles fighting in Ukraine on the side of the separatists. That isn't how you facilitate "political dialog."

Comment: Re:Why the fuck is this on Slashdot? (Score 1) 394

For some reason The Moscow Times is clear about it, how is it you aren't?

Don't Mess With Nuclear Russia, Putin Warns at Youth Camp

LAKE SELIGER, Russia — President Vladimir Putin said Friday that Russia's armed forces, backed by its nuclear arsenal, were ready to meet any aggression, declaring at a pro-Kremlin youth camp that foreign states should understand: "It's best not to mess with us."

Comment: Re:Straight out of the Cold War playbook (Score 2) 394

He did, but he apparently paid attention.

Soviet influence on the peace movement

Russian GRU defector Stanislav Lunev said in his autobiography that "the GRU and the KGB helped to fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad," and that during the Vietnam War the USSR gave $1 billion to American anti-war movements, more than it gave to the VietCong.[19] Lunev described this as a "hugely successful campaign and well worth the cost".[19] According to Time magazine, a US State Department official estimated that the KGB may have spent $600 million on the peace offensive up to 1983, channeling funds through national Communist parties or the World Peace Council "to a host of new antiwar organizations that would, in many cases, reject the financial help if they knew the source."[13] Richard Felix Staar in his book Foreign Policies of the Soviet Union says that non-communist peace movements without overt ties to the USSR were "virtually controlled" by it. Lord Chalfont claimed that the Soviet Union was giving the European peace movement £100 million a year. The Federation of Conservative Students (FCS) alleged Soviet funding of CND.

In 1985 Time magazine noted "the suspicions of some Western scientists that the nuclear winter hypothesis was promoted by Moscow to give antinuclear groups in the U.S. and Europe some fresh ammunition against America's arms buildup."[20] Sergei Tretyakov claimed that the data behind the nuclear winter scenario was faked by the KGB and spread in the west as part of a campaign against Pershing missiles.[21] He said that the first peer-reviewed paper in the development of the nuclear winter hypothesis, "Twilight at Noon" by Paul Crutzen and John Birks (1982),[22] was published as a result of this KGB influence.

Comment: Re:Actual full quote (Score 1) 394

I hope very much that not just Russia’s historical memory but that all of humanity will prompt us to search for peaceful solutions to the various conflicts that are currently unfolding and that will arise in the future. We support political dialogue and the search for compromise.

That would be a lot more meaningful if Putin didn't have 100 tanks fighting in Ukraine.

Russia has up to 100 battle tanks fighting in Ukraine, UK believes
Putin likens Ukraine's forces to Nazis and threatens standoff in the Arctic

Do you have any thoughts as to how many of the questions Putin got were plants orchestrated to deliver a message?

+ - Invasion Of Ukraine Continuing As Russia Begins Nuclear Weapons Sabre Rattling-> 3

Submitted by cold fjord
cold fjord (826450) writes "News.com.au reports, "This morning, Prime Minister Tony Abbott labelled Russia’s escalating and “open” invasion into Ukraine as “war”. But he was not only person using fighting words. ... on Friday, Vladimir Putin’s nuclear threat was simple. “I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations. This is a reality, not just words.” It’s the first time in more than 25 years that Moscow has raised the spectre of nuclear war. The difference this time is that its tanks are already pouring over its western borders. “A great war arrived at our doorstep, the likes of which Europe has not seen since World War II,” Ukraine’s Defence Minister Valeriy Geletey wrote ... warning of “tens of thousands of deaths”. Putin appears to agree. Italian newspaper La Repubblica reports Putin has told the outgoing European Commission President ... : “If I want, I take Kiev in two weeks.” " — CNN reports, "The British government source told CNN on Friday that Russia has moved 4,000 to 5,000 military personnel — a figure far higher than one U.S. official's earlier claim of 1,000 troops. The soldiers are aligned in "formed units" and fighting around Luhansk and Donetsk.... And they may soon have company: Some 20,000 troops are on border and "more may be on the way," ..." — Newsweek reports, "Russia Has Threatened Nuclear Attack, Says Ukraine Defence Minister""
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Comment: Re:Temptation (Score 1) 513

by cold fjord (#47802065) Attached to: Grand Ayatollah Says High Speed Internet Is "Against Moral Standards"

This lack of belief can not create extremism.

The problem you face is that extremism has a long and fairly well known history among atheist regimes.

And who are the "anti-theists" if not atheists?

If you are asked the question, "Do you believe in god," there are basically three answers: yes, no, I don't know. Those answers map to: theist, atheist, and agnostic.

Perhaps to try to defend science from the militant Christian nuts

No, that isn't it. The common thread there is atheism, not "defending science." Besides, there are already science clubs in many schools. Why do something redundant? It's about atheism, supporting and spreading the atheist belief ... or should I say faith?

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