That looks like a guess. Are you able to cite the mass of the solar cells and rtg vs the power requirements of the lander?

Yes it does. The availability of pu238 (IIRC) used in the rtg is scarce. The duration of the mission isn't multiple decades in deep space where you have to keep electronics warm and supply electricity.

Additionally the rtg degrades and the lander was in storage while the rtg produced it's peak power output. That means the characteristics of the mission would defeat the need of the lander to have an rtg.

So it doesn't make sense to put the mission planning through the additional logistics for a craft that is going to be destroyed anyway.

I think this whole rtg discussion is a case of Captain Hindsight not really knowing the situation.

Yes, it is. I find it ambiguous, so it is ambiguous.

It is your message. The responsibility for communicating it accurately is yours. So instead of rushing to take offence just resolve the ambiguity, it is not as if I'm trying to insult you.

1) Did you listen to the live radio broadcast?

2) When did it start and end?

3) When did you start and stop listening?

Huh? The live television broadcast did not run for "hours".

Your statement is ambiguous. You say it started before breakfast and television broadcast (via Parkes) started just before lunch and fail to say when you stop watching or when it ended for you.

How hard is it for you to pay attention to something written on the same page you're replying to?

Without any accuracy and specificity in your response my level of attention is irrelevant. "did not run for hours" implies sometime less than 1 hour and 59 minutes, before breakfast to just before lunch implies at least 3 hours, even though you didn't connect the two statements. Therefore, based on the information you supplied, I can imply that you watched it for between 1 and 119 minutes. How long you watched and listened to whatever broadcasts were made was what I was interested in.

From the wiki:

Apollo 11 was the spaceflight that landed the first humans on the Moon, Americans Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, on July 20, 1969, at 20:18 UTC. Armstrong became the first to step onto the lunar surface six hours later on July 21 at 02:56 UTC. Armstrong spent about two and a half hours outside the spacecraft, Aldrin slightly less

The people I am talking about took the *entire* day off to watch and listen to *everything*. From the duration of the mission on the moon perhaps more than two hours was broadcast from the surface of the moon. Maybe they saw something you did not *see* or *listen* to or it was an earlier broadcast, considering the duration of the landing. I was simply giving you the benefit of the doubt with your answer. As I said, I'm not committed to any opinion on the matter, I was just wondering what other people saw and heard and you have told me that so thank you.

Do you even think about the things you say? Them words have meanings - have you considered that and what they mean? It's a rhetorical question.

Yes. I considered that now-a-days, instead of calling you a 'fucken little smart arse' and giving you a slap in the head, they medicate you and fuck your head instead. It wasn't about you.

Undoubtedly you don't like "smart arses" and prefer the company of the opposite - for obvious reasons - given that the opposite of a smart arse is a dumb prick.

Sometimes smart arses are entertaining. The opposite could also be a dumb cunt, a smart cunt or a dick head, however the obvious the reason appears to be you taking the conversation too seriously. Again, not having a go at you.

That must of been a slow news day....

yes, they were slow news days, I was incredibly fortunate that no-one had anything better to do, than me.

Because they're both competing for election funding from the same business interests? According to the AEC the party who spends the most gets the most votes.

Agree, I was speculating about the motives.

It's a conspiracy if you don't know about it

Indeed, so I generally focus on the the things I can do something about. Unfortunately the general public's apathy isn't a problem I can solve.

No, they identified the ports the popular free speed check software used and then wrote special rules to handle that traffic with priority so the user thought the connections were faster than they were.

Incidentally, the ISP I worked for once specifically gamed the speed testing software with special rules in the network infrastructure for that type of traffic so it would always be prioritized.

Assholes.

Since they can't get their way to squeeze more profit from their customers, they'll punish them instead.

Assholes.

Oh, I see what you did there - nice work!

Kind of like your story is to me.

It was probably the aliens idea of a joke.

So you admit you weren't paying attention

So, back then would they have called you "A little fucken smart arse" instead?

When I lost my virginity?

YOU WERE WATCHING!!! Well, I suppose you're only human.

Generation triple X, read all about the weed smoke and the kinky sex, get fucked.

I think you are onto something.

HooRay for Hollywood!!! Vested interests exist, so the truth is constantly raped. Thanks for sharing what you heard, as I said I'm not committed to a view on this, it is interesting.

Indeed he is a cunt, but the apathetic morons that listen to him are worse. He sucked a lot of cock to get where he is today and is proud of it.

Too busy reading legislative articles, writing letters and lobbying to preserve the minor sheds of freedom we have left to have time. Why is it that the only time the two parties agree is when it is to pass some laws to become more intrusive.

That it is no conspiracy and I agree, Australia needs a bill of rights.

My bad, I didn't mean anecdotal (posting tired). They were family members who heard those words from the broadcast and have maintained the story with no variation.

Apologies, I was tired a not doing very good job of not taking it personally because it was family and I didn't express myself properly. I had doubt myself

Sorry, I'd closed that down because the ads were annoying. It's a tragic loss, to see the high res film instead of a film of a monitor in B/W would be an appropriate use of the word awesome.

It's a bothersome mindworm though.

Not an unreasonable premise.

Not at all, no attack intended, just tired. I don't know many children can maintain that attention for that many hours. I'd agree with you on the organic explanation but the story has been maintained for well over 30 years. I just don't see a punchline anytime soon.

Well I don't believe they have maintained a lie either, I have no idea what it means. They don't drink, smoke or take drugs. I'm not committed to any view point on the matter and maybe I'll get to listen to the whole thing one day.

Who knows, there are so many lies out there and so many amazing stories sound like wacky shit. You can pursue the truth if you can evaluate it rationally.

Which Bill of Rights?

I wish I did, but it was never important enough to my to bother with. I wanted to dismiss it. But I went from doubt to WTF!

Wow, that's a pretty absolute statement to make. Don't you think you are being a little bite arrogant? I said, 'Anecdotal' and 'I don't go in for the whole UFO thing or conspiracy theories about the moon landings' so apart from giving them the benefit of the doubt that was the limit of my chain being yanked.

I was speculating on what the Russian government wanted investigated about the moon landing because it didn't say in the article. I wasn't there so I don't have the benefit of what you saw in school but I do know that it was at least 2 people who told me the same thing and they had adult mature brains with an adult capacity for memory, making them approximately 20 years older than you at the time. Still, I had some doubt.

I don't claim that what I know is the truth, are you? I was curious about what other people had heard because, yes, I doubted it myself until I read about a U.S Congressman asking Congress question about exactly the same statement by Apollo 11. It wasn't what I expected to find.

So maybe they weren't the only ones who heard those words. I didn't, either.

Mr AC is referring to many of the Disney stories being old European stories that were in the public domain. They used those stories in many of their works - I don't know which ones.

Ok so this is completely anecdotal from some people in my family who watched it in Australia. They watched/listened to it live off the feed from Parkes and a bit after the Eagle landed they heard a very excited Armstrong say: "Huston, Huston, There is something large and unusually* white coming off the crater ri..." and then the feed was cut.

* could have also been suspiciously.

Personally, I don't go in for the whole UFO thing or conspiracy theories about the moon landings but they have both maintained this story as what they both heard. I always thought those stories were just covers for intelligence operations - which seemed more feasible. I just think the moon landings were a pretty amazing achievement.

I just realized, the drone streaming video is reality TV for the military and it's a hit!!

Imagine the commercial breaks!!