Yeah I'm a dopey fkker, I forgot to click to desktop!

Nope, just closed the browser and that was it. Win7 64bit.

What matters to me is that many fonts look crap on a 1080p screen at normal viewing distance. Smoothing doesn't fix this, 4k would.

That is it. The chart is wrong by a long shot.

Moot point, they know what they're doing, it's not up to the sound engineers, they'd lose their job if they refused to up the loudness.

I don't assume that modern vinyl is immune to the effect, but they don't bastardise vinyl masters like they do CD masters.

And neither is there a good reason why the loudness of digital media couldn't be reduced.

When music is broken by the loudness techniques used there is often clipping, that can't be fixed - data is irretrievably lost.

It doesn't matter how much you spend, Media conglomerates have ruined CDs, see the Loudness war

With the advent of the Compact Disc (CD), music is encoded to a digital format with a clearly defined maximum peak amplitude. Once the maximum amplitude of a CD is reached, loudness can be increased still further through signal processing techniques such as dynamic range compression and equalization. Engineers can apply an increasingly high ratio of compression to a recording until it more frequently peaks at the maximum amplitude. In extreme cases, efforts to increase loudness can result in clipping and other audible distortion

10 years ago if you'd have said vinyl sounds better than CD, I'd have said you're nuts or that you simply can't stand high pitched frequencies, but because of this butchered mastering of CDs, vinyl versions may sound better.

The extremely expensive plants you mean? The ones that cost double what new renewables cost? Do they deliver dispatchable power or do they deliver continuous power that can't be altered much hour to hour?

What happens when a country with a 'safer plant' gets hit by bombs because the country it's in has gone to war?

Can u guarantee the safe waste won't end up in terrorists/mafia hands? Is all nuclear waste in the world right now accounted for?

"No user-serviceable parts inside"

"warranty void if seal broken"

Bad analogy, this is more like a Sony DVD player that only plays Sony brand DVDs.

If Real just wanted to put the music on the iPod, the iPod always support non-DRMed formats (mp3, AAC).

They couldn't do that because the big music co's were insisting their music be sold encrypted.

https://www.apple.com/support/...

The point is that the differences between 1080p and 4k are clearly visible at distances far beyond that which the chart implies so, the chart is wrong.

Take fonts, you can 'smooth' them, to me that makes them look blurry in an ugly way. The font I am typing with right now is constructed of lines only 1 pixel wide, leaving negligible room for font style. Text would clearly benefit from 4k as opposed to 1080p.

The fact that you have to 'blur' things to fix the image points to the deficiency of 1080p. I don't like blurry and I don't like jaggies, I like crisp images, 1080p is nearly crisp - not good enough.

I agree that it's a case of diminishing returns, but 1080p is at best half way there.

http://www.latinamericanstudie...

I was hoping that the authorities were exaggerating, but looking at the pic on this page one can see that they aren't :-(

"better than "retina""
Supposedly my screen is like retina at 6 foot.

"the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels" This is what needs clarifying.

I can clearly see a line of white pixels between lines of black pixels at 8ft.

Most of all, at 7feet some web fonts look atrocious to me, I block web fonts on a site by site basis because of this. The font letters am looking at as I type this is constructed of lines 1 pixel wide, if I turn on 'font smoothing' that looks really bad at a distance beyond the 6foot 'like a retina display'.

There are other differences that I can make out at up to 14 foot - more than double the indistinguishable claim for my screen - 1080p 46" @ 6' = like retina.

I wasn't aware that the ability to see was super-human.

PS, a simple test of whether an upgrade to 4k would be beneficial to your enjoyment is the 'sharpness' setting. If you can tell the difference at normal viewing distance when altering the god awful sharpness thing then you would notice the difference between 1080p and 4k (I turn sharpness off, it is an abomination of an 'enhancement' that doesn't belong on HD screens.)

Or draw a couple of diagonal lines in a graphics editor - one with anti-aliasing and one without - if you can tell which line is which then a 4k screen would look better to you.