Tempting offer, but I think I'll pass.

Sadly, the BSDs tend have hardware compatibility issues.

They are great for servers - better than Linux, IMO. But for desktops, and laptops, I don't know if I could recommend a BSD.

I doubt it.

Stuff like "road rage" and domestic violence may be caused by aggression.

But I think most financial/political maneuvering decisions - like war - are mostly made when people are completely calm.

Then there is religion, that is what motivates ISIS and the like.

As I remember, during the 1999 bubble, three digit, and even four digit P/Es were not that unusual.

Non-sense. Most of those distros are based on other distros that use systemd by default.

Furthermore, even Patrick Volkerding has admitted that systemd may become inevitable even for Slackware.

I have been testing FreeBSD lately. For servers, FreeBSD is awesome, beats systemd-linux up and down.

For desktops, sadly, FreeBSD seems to have hardware compatibility issues. They tend to be smaller issues, but annoying none-the-less.

> Ubuntu wasn't a big enough player? That's news to me.

It shouldn't be news to you.

When it comes to big enterprise systems, Ubuntu does not even begin to compare to RHEL. Ubuntu is mostly used by home users who don't pay, and don't need commercial support. Ubuntu is not even it's own distro, it's based on Debian.

Red Hat is a $10 billion corporation that is obligated to increase shareholder value. Monopolizing Linux would certainly increase shareholder value. This is a long term play to get rid of any real competition. Fedora will remain free, Fedora is something like the beta version of RHEL. Red Hat gives away Fedora like Microsoft gives away Windows-10.

You must not know many admins.

Every admin I have ever known, including myself, must adjust to constant change, it's part of the job.

Systemd is not just a change. Systemd is an obvious embrace-extend-extinguish strategy. Systemd is all about Red Hat monopolizing Linux, and forcing vendor lock-in on Linux users.

If that actually works at all, it won't for long.

Once Debian switches over to systemd, Red Hat will have total control. And Red Hat is determined to have systemd everywhere, and to have everything dependent on systemd.

Enjoy those little tricks while they last, they won't last long.

I expect Debian to gone completely.

Soon enough, Red Hat will decide that Linux should be standardized on one package management system. Systemd will only work with RPM.

Red Hat will say this was done because of user demand, and that only luddite grey beards are complaining. Red Hat will say that Linux package management was broken, because of two many choices, and this had to be done.

When this happens, there will not be much unique about Debian, so who needs it?

> Then for f**ks sake, apt-get install something_else and stop bitching.

It is not as easy as that. Systemd is taking over everything.

http://giphy.com/gifs/hungry-systemd-5xtDarAgrjoOrBxSVYk

That is like saying "don't like OOXML use something else."

The dominate players have a lot of influence. Red Hat is connecting everything to systemd. Why is udev now part of systemd? Why does Gnome3 require systemd?

What is going to be next? Once Debian goes systemd, Red Hat will have much more control over everything in Linux.

Windows works, use that. Leave real UNIX/Linux people alone.

> Systemd? Couldn't care less.

Then why use Linux? If you don't mind vendor lock-in, and letting a big corporation make your decisions for you, then use a commercial OS. Microsoft does proprietary better than Red Hat.

I think all the systemd advocates should do the same. Either OSX, or Windows.

If you want proprietary, go proprietary. Let a big corporation make your computer decisions for you - it's not worth the bother. Screw log files and the other crap, let the sysadmins deal with that.

If you hate POSIX, and the UNIX philosophy, then please go away, and leave us real UNIX/Linux people alone.

I am also trying FreeBSD. Sadly, the hardware support seems to leave something to be desired.

The ports system is amazing. Easier to install Linux software on FreeBSD, than on Slackware, from my experience.

FreeBSD is a fast, stable, coherent system. I like the "techie" feel. I don't mind editing a few config files.