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Comment Re:Why not allow the update into the repos? (Score 2) 126

The Ubuntu package repositories are divided into two parts. Main and restricted contains a limited number of packages which are supported by the Ubuntu security team, but universe and multiverse are not; they are supported (or in this case unsupported) by the Ubuntu community.

The problem is that Ubuntu users don't know this.

Comment Re:Why not allow the update into the repos? (Score 1) 126

Explain for me why the developers cannot simply upload their EXISTING 12.04 and 14.04 backports to Ubuntu, again?

They want you to use their package repository.
If the Ubuntu community wants to provide a version in the Ubuntu repository then the Ubuntu community has to support it.

Comment Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (Score 4, Informative) 555

This isnt a thought or a prediction, this is something systemd actually does when it takes NTP, console, logging, and networking and forces them into one application.

Except it's not. /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journald /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd

My system is too old so I don't have the consoled on it, but I imagine that will be a separate daemon as well.

the fork threat is to be taken seriously because of the leaderships inability to actually recognize this as a massive security, scalability, and overall functionality problem that was steamrolled into debian largely at the behest of KDE and Gnome devs. The best solution to avoid a fork in my opinion is to give the user something thats also been forgotten about in the linux community: choice. Systemd or RC Init, or uselessd (a fork of systemd that tries to rehabilitate systemd)

That would of course be nice. But someone has to do the work. It's not like it's just a matter of flipping a bit and everything just works. You actually need to go in and make sure that stuff works with all of them.

Comment Re:Please Debian (Score 1) 522

The part that I don't like (besides it going against the unix philosophy) is how fast it's taking over before the majority of the Linux community even had a chance to have their say. And what really gets me is, if systemd was just an init system, fine. But at the rate they are going there is going to be a systemd everything.

Distributions are free to choose whichever init system they want to support. A lot of them choose systemd because it is better than everything that came before it. As simple as that. There is no big conspiracy going on. It's better, that's why it's used. Get over it.

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