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Comment Re:What's the difference between China and EU? (Score 1) 222

You don't think that deliberately causing a panic with the intent to hurt people is an action? I think you're being deliberately obstinate on this point. That's like saying it's not your fault for pulling the trigger, it's the bullet's fault for jumping out of the gun so quickly.

"This man murdered my son!", regarding a person who you know full well did no such thing, is an example of speech that is expressly intended to cause harm and has no real value. This is why when you're giving testimony in a courtroom your right to free speech is deliberately abrogated and perjury is criminalized.

You do realize that same court case was used to suppress war protestors, correct?

Sometimes people can make good points in the process of making bad arguments. This historical context is interesting but ultimately irrelevant. Unless you intent to advance a slippery slope argument.

Speech does not possess people and force them to act, so you are mistaken.

Does a real fire in a packed theater force people to act? Suppose you set such a fire, but you cleverly arranged it so that people were in no real danger, but had every reason to believe that they were in real danger. You are the theater owner and harmed no-one else's property. People predictably panic. Have you committed no crime? You are completely innocent?

If not, what is the essential difference? In both cases, there was the impression of danger from fire without actual danger from fire.

If so, then if a man literally holds a gun to your head (and, for that matter, the heads of those close to you) and said he will kill you unless you aid him in stealing all the jewellery from the jewellery store, are you fully responsible for your actions? Even if it turns out the gun wasn't loaded?

What about the guy goes around yelling "fire", or "sniper", or whatever, whenever he sees a gathering by members of a political party he opposes? Is he not now an agent restricting free speech?

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is a threat. Credible threats were never considered to be protected free speech by basically any society.

Comment Re:Still doesn't make sense (Score 1) 171

You can *absolutely* be thrown out of a hotel for using running water, and I guarantee -- outright guarantee -- that some people will use this in hotels and not be kicked out. I'd say being obnoxious about running water is *way more likley* for you to get booted from a restaurant or hotel (and a hefty fine at that) than being an asshole with one of these.

You don't need a tablet, but people buy tablets.

Comment Re:Nostalgic for Windows 7? (Score 3, Insightful) 640

Your statement is actually reinforcing his point.

You are *not* a business user. If you were, you:

a) would not have been able to get Windows into a state that requires a reinstall. For instance, you would not personally install or update anything.
b) ...also would not have been able to reinstall Windows in the first place.

Your experience with a personal computer is irrelevant. This isn't mean as an insult -- you're just discussing a completely different thing.

Comment Re:So they are doing what? (Score 1) 509

You can't seriously believe this is the same thing.

Something more similar to the wearing provocative clothing would be somebody who was wearing clothing so glaringly unstylish that it provoked murder (which, I will note, happens, for certain values of "stylish"). Something more similar to advocating and cheering murder would be advocating and cheering rape (which, I will note, people do in prison contexts).

Comment Re:Free? (Score 4, Informative) 703

Yes, absolutely.

The older people where I grew up, grew up in a time when high school was not compulsory and was attached with real costs, and most did not partake in it. There is a sharp educational distinction between them and the younger generations which had University at least, and usually University.

(I'm in Canada, so it's not exactly the US system.)

Comment Re:When will this stupid crap-o-rama end? (Score 1) 73

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this, but "daily commute", even when it's not all that long, is consistently among the most hated timesinks. I don't think results like this are terribly surprising: http://www.economist.com/blogs.... A technical and economic advantage is you can do something else while "driving" between home and work, without taking on the compromises of public transit (which may not be available at all, may take a long time or be beholden to a schedule that's incompatible with your lifestyle, or may otherwise be unpleasant).

I can't *wait* to have a self-driving car.

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