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Comment Re:GREENPEACE ARE DISHONEST, AS WELL AS INCOMPETEN (Score 1) 288

Overhead the GP is talking about is probably the operating systems that those 30 virtual machines are running, which is a huge duplication of effort.

Big enough infrastructure probably means that (say) the virtual machines are running web servers - you could run just one big web server on an operating system instead of 30 operating systems AND 30 web servers.

And failover advantages of virtualization don't apply to this because even such big web servers should be run in a cluster - as the assumption of "big enough" infrastructure probably enables.

And power saving by consolidating services and switching off servers in low load periods is not really an argument because during low load periods some of the blades running some web servers could be shut down.

Comment Re:As soon as greenpeace touches it (Score 1) 288

Effectively you harm yourself by dismissing things that could be beneficial for you

Here, it is not primarily about what is beneficial to oneself. It is like doing something benefits oneself greatly, but harms everyone, including oneself, a little bit.

There the benchmark you put out does not hold.

Comment Re:Integrating with each other system (Score 1) 372

This is the case of file paths changing across operating systems over different releases of operating systems. They can change due to some property in the operating system changing value. Or the place to keep that property changing. Or the property name itself changing. Or the process of determining the file path changing in some manner.

The reason for this change is that some one in operating system design team decided to change it, or the packagers of the software being used decided to change locations of files. The minds of these people are NOT deterministic.

You can analyze the whole operating system in your program, but you wouldn't know the location of the exact file you are looking for. This is because name of the file could have changed, or there could be many files of the same name. So even by analyzing the operating system finding file path in unknown environment is NOT deterministic.

Comment Re:original title (Score 1) 291

There you were the problem for not buying Nexus. Or any other phone after reading reviews and some space to install alternative keyboard / calendar / messaging applications. Free.

And if you claim ignorance, you cannot claim benefit of free market anymore because free market needs informed participants for functioning properly.

Comment Re:original title (Score 1) 291

No. Niche markets are always full of stupid shit. Slide-out keyboard phones are a niche market. No amount of Stupid Shit Index is going to alter that fundamental reality.

"Pretty" water bottles, with a lot of attention paid to their looks, leak. Braille books have typos.

For non-niche markets, Moto G and Moto E are available, much cheaper than your phone and with zero stupid shit.

Comment Re:...The hell? (Score 1) 291

I agree that the post is not as stupid as many slashdotters are claiming.

But Android enabling selling of more devices than Apple's is proof that free market is indeed nice - as Android's market is freer than Apple's. ALL of his problems can be solved by good default application replacements. Most of which do not take a lot of resources.

Comment Re:Systemd? Not on my system... (Score 1) 226

It is just lies and handwaving, "an enormous amount" of "unrelated" software... except, not.

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You set it up so you have to use sudo, with no backup access, and then removed sudo, and blamed systemd

Sounds like reader error. I didn't blame systemd, this was an argument against your (unsubstantiated, as usual) argument that Fedora has good dependency tree. An I didn't say there was no backup access either. It is just stupid to remove sudo while removing vim-minimal. Probably makes sense with clean_requirements_on_remove, but not always.

Comment Re:Systemd? Not on my system... (Score 1) 226

RedHat/Fedora is not better as I personally know. Removing systemd removes an enormous amount of "unrelated" software.

And no, Fedora doesn't have time to create correct dependency mapping. For last three releases, installing vim-enhanced "conflicts" with vim-minimal. Easy solution is to remove vim-minimal. Which also removes "sudo". Those who don't set root password and depend on sudo, now cannot install any thing as root.

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