So, if technology breaks down completely, humans will still be able to survive. That's a little different than anywhere else in the solar system, right ?
We can still die at a moments notice.
Even if all of Mars was habitable, it would only add one quarter additional Earth surface. But it isn't. And the rest of the solar system is even less hospitable than Mars.
I never proposed it as a solution for overpopulation. I never proposed a mass migration. Why do people keep assuming that?
You're advocating stealing tons of resources and energy from the Earth right here so you can build hypothetical comic book sci-fi impossibilities, but *that's* OK?
Yes. Stealing *tons* of resources from Earth to expand human habitat to space is fine by me. It's a drop of water compared to the *billions of tons* of resources and energy we put into killing each other. You guys keep trying to play this up like we're throwing away our future in order to finance space research...that is not so. It is nothing compared to our other (less worthy) expenses.
We'll have to make arrangements right here with real, actual solutions.
Bullshit. Nature has already solved this problem for us. We instinctively kill each other. This will NEVER change. Even if we have one world government, there will always be violent factions.
The population is increasing by 200000 people EVERY DAY. That's about SEVENTY THOUSAND SATURN V launches *EVERY DAY* just to BREAK EVEN!!!
I'm not talking about evacuating the existing population, that's impossible until something like a space elevator comes along. I never billed this as a cure for overpopulation. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Exactly, new technology that will be used by the SEVEN BILLION people here right now, not the ZERO people on Mars.
The same argument could have been used for staying in Africa.
Why ? You suffer huge cost, just to end up in a covered dome on some barren rock where you will be one mechanical failure away from death.
How is this any different than being on Earth? There are huge costs to society here on Earth. Yes, parts of the Earth will sustain us for the foreseeable future without us expending any energy. But that's never been enough for us. We humans are always moving into new habitats. We develop new technologies to help us do it. When we left Africa we developed tools to help us hunt and kill animals for the skins so we could survive in colder climates. We developed agriculture and husbandry for the same reasons. All of our technological advancements have allowed us to continue to grow into new formerly uninhabitable environments. Space is no different. Mechanical failures kill us all the time. We're all going to die. Why not die doing what we're clearly supposed to do...going forth and multiplying. Multiplying on Earth can only continue for so long.
It serves no useful purpose to do all of that in space given the insanely high cost.
It's R&D, it costs a lot of money. It's not meant to replace efficient industries yet.
How about figuring out how to mine stuff without pollution ?
There are always toxic side effects to industry. What you're proposing can't be done.
Today is a good day for information-gathering. Read someone else's mail file.