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Comment Re:Don't single out EPA (Score 1) 355

Huh? We use terms like "patient A" or "patient 1212" or "Ellie P". Full names are never used in medical reports.

You just made that up didn't you?

Go look in Medline. If you don't know where that is you have no right talking about what medical reports look like.

fyi, pharma companies hold data secret from doctors and doctors are furious:

http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_g...
(it's near the end ~15 mins)

Comment Re:The all-or-nothing fallacy (Score 2) 355

"The way this bill is crafted makes it perfectly clear that good science is not the goal. Emasculating the EPA is."

If making the data the EPA makes policy on available to anybody is emasculig the EPA then the EPA deserves to be emasculated.

We don't have secret laws in this country, how would you know if you've broken one?

Secret science is a hideous idea. We can disagree on how we should handle a situation, that's policy but the fundamental facts of the matter do not improve with secrecy.

Comment Re:EPA has exceeded safe limits, needs curbing (Score 2) 355

Why do you assume outside scientists are republican? I'm not but I have a BIG problem with secret scientific data.

In theory all products of government are public domain (since the public paid for it) and this is fundamental "open and transparent 101".

Can you explain why secret data should be used to make public policy?

Comment Re:EPA has exceeded safe limits, needs curbing (Score 4, Informative) 355

"There is ample evidence of Ocean acidification to suggest that CO2 needs to be treated as a pollutant."

Then I'm sure you'll have no problem providing that evidence of this and of any harm..

I can tell you ahead of time corals have genes that switch on to handle heat and co2 and they have survived 7000 ppm CO2 in the past and that this is not affecting reefs which by some miracle are only dying near man where he pollutes; in the open ocean coral is fine.

Tree of life with time scale
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...

Historic co2
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...

Corals can turn certain genes on and off to cope with heat
http://www.sciencemag.org/cont...

Dr. Bruce Carlson produced a wonderful video demonstrating the resilient capacity of coral reefs if humans would simply stopped interfering with nature.
http://www.advancedaquarist.co...

Palau's coral reefs surprisingly resistant to ocean acidification
http://nsf.gov/news/news_summ....

Total reef losses due to climate change are unlikely
http://www.advancedaquarist.co...

For cold water corals, warming is beating acidification to drive a growth spurt
http://arstechnica.com/science...

Comment Re:Seems he has more of a clue (Score 1) 703

It's not up to anyone to deny global warming (or "Climate Cringe" us it's not called) it's up to those who believe in it to prove it's true.

The arctic sea ice all grew back - how does that happen in a "warming world"

Source: NASA.
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...

And it did this when Co2 was rising. If it was true that the loss of ice would make the world warmer because less is reflected back what does it mean now it's all back? Cooler yet maybe?

CO2 stopped rising:
http://www.iea.org/newsroomand...

NOAA data shows cooling not warming:
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...

NASA PR guys mislead if not flat out lie:
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...

For most of earths history it's been about 8 degrees warmer. In historical context we're in a temperature trough and have nowhere to go but up:
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...

The polar bears are fine. One nutjob saw two cubs swimming and that was enough to start that alarmism. The latest monograph on the bears shows their population is increasing. It was down by 2/3 till we stopped most hunting, but look at what's still taken. Anyway the ice is back so who cars?
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...

Sadly this means that nutjob Cruz is right and Obama and Sanders are dead wrong, although I suspect they really mean "fight pollution" but it's better for optics for the worst polluters to say "we're fighting climate cringe" than "yeah we still pollute like crazy. Notice the regulatoin address pollution andnohtin gelse.

Don't tell me it's warming, show me your evidence and I'll tell you if it's warming or not. Notice they never post temperatur graphs any more? Just weasel words like "10 of the warmest years occured in the past 20 years" - that's equally true with descending temperatures too. What they don't say is "each year is warmer than the previous one". Alti they's using outliers here, who cares about transitory peaks the trend is what matters and that's downward.

Comment Re:Its about time (Score 1) 314

"And those problems don't even touch on osteoporosis"

Which fluoride is used as a therapeutic treatment for. The smart money would be on taking other minerals as well. Fluoride by itself just increases the rate of bone fixin' you need minerals in the blood so it has something to fix with.

Did you mean: fluoride osteoporosis

Effect of fluoride treatment on the fracture rate in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis
BL Riggs, SF Hodgson, WM O'Fallon - New England journal , 1990 - Mass Medical Soc
Abstract Although fluoride increases bone mass, the newly formed bone may have reduced
strength. To assess the effect of fluoride treatment on the fracture rate in osteoporosis, we
conducted a four-year prospective clinical trial in 202 postmenopausal women with ...
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Effect of the fluoride/calcium regimen on vertebral fracture occurrence in postmenopausal osteoporosis: comparison with conventional therapy
BL Riggs, E Seeman, SF Hodgson - New England journal , 1982 - Mass Medical Soc
Abstract We assessed the rates of vertebral fracture in patients with postmenopausal
osteoporosis. Forty-five patients were not treated (91 person-years of observation); 59 were
treated conventionally, with calcium (alone or combined with estrogen) or vitamin D or ...
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Effect of combined therapy with sodium fluoride, vitamin D and calcium in osteoporosis
J Jowsey, BL Riggs, PJ Kelly, DL Hoffman - The American journal of , 1972 - Elsevier
Abstract Fluoride administration in both man and animals has been shown to stimulate new
bone formation. However, the bone is poorly mineralized, and osteomalacia and secondary
hyperparathyroidism frequently occur. In this study we investigated the effect of variable ...
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Risk-benefit ratio of sodium fluoride treatment in primary vertebral osteoporosis
N Mamelle, R Dusan, JL Martin, A Prost, PJ Meunier - The Lancet, 1988 - Elsevier
Abstract The risk-benefit ratio of combined fluoride-calcium therapy in primary vertebral
osteoporosis was examined prospectively in patients with at least one vertebral fracture. 257
patients were randomised to receive sodium fluoride 25 mg twice daily plus elemental ...
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