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Comment: Re:EPA has exceeded safe limits, needs curbing (Score 1) 346

If there is no secret data why are they fighting to keep it secret?

A good way to route around calls for openness and transparency to to be open and transparent, not to claim there's no secrets.

But thank you for the pointers to marketing information, I've read them all thanks.

Comment: Re:Hmmmm ... (Score 1) 346

"So, basically a bunch of luddites on the payroll of major corporations are trying to ensure those corporations have access to whatever private data they need to discredit the science?"

That's right. So does the smartest man in the world. And the second smartest man in the world and so on.

If it's correct, it gains traction.

If it's wrong, we'll know.

This is how science works. It is the very definition of it.

Secret rules is how churches work not science.

Comment: Re:Regulatory Capture (Score 1) 346

Care to put money on this?

I've read all that. It's what you haven't read is the problem.

When your opponent starts off with an adhiminem you know they have no data.

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Comment: Re:EPA has exceeded safe limits, needs curbing (Score 1) 346

As for the great lakes, they froze early, thawed late and had 100 year record levels of ice; some froze completely which is nearly unprecedented and niagara falls froze twice in 2 years.

All signs of a warming world no doubt.

But please drag out the weasel words and explain this. Extra points or quoting "Skeptical science".

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Comment: Re:EPA has exceeded safe limits, needs curbing (Score 1) 346

Look how much it's grown:

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It did melt, because it was warmer. It grew back because it was colder, not still warming.

NOAA graph showing cooling not warming:
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And another:
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Who expects it to grow back all thick? Give it time, now that it's reflecting back sunlight it'll happen.

As this point "Skeptical science" has the credibility of "Natural News".

Not one prediction by the IPCC ever came true.

Comment: Re:EPA has exceeded safe limits, needs curbing (Score 1) 346

"What matters is volume, not surface area."

Newsflash: if it's white it reflect back sunlight regardless of the thickness.

It all grew back in a "warming world" with rising Co2 in five years and isn't a mile thick. No shit. It'll thicken, don't you worry about it.

Gore said it would be gone by now. The opposite happened.

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