God dammit so much now I'm going to have to use that somewhere wildly inappropriate and see who figures it out...

As an adult, I find this stuff still rather hilarious, but I'm an adult now and can easily discern it's just for fun. A child? Influential. They don't know better yet.

Watched all that stuff as a kid. Don't recall ever thinking "Hey, it would be pretty cool to drop a safe on someone - not like it really hurts them past the commercial break, after all!"

No, kids aren't so stupid that they see talking mice running at near sonic speed (or small dinosaurs doing same) and think "oh, how realistic! Wow, the world is pretty cool, isn't it?"

Hell, most of us (speaking of the kids of my day, and get off my lawn!) never even believed that animals could talk, much less order shit from Acme....

This site is for people who are smart enough and educated enough to be able to use both equally well.

But if all you can handle is division by ten, we've got a special handicapped section Just For You!

The Baby Boom began in 1845,

I really hope you don't think we had a Baby Boom after the Mexican-American War....

I'm only below sea level when I go down south of the Lake (it's really interesting to be in a place where the water level in the canals is higher than the streets. Or higher than the second floor of your house, in some places.

On the other hand, I spend most of my time north of the Lake, and that puts me a good five or six feet above sealevel....

Yes, I do. It's why we have idiotic parents who aren't giving their kids vaccinations so now we have kids dying again of measles, whooping cough, etc. Diseases that a few decades ago were all but eradicated.

And which are still "all but eradicated". Check the numbers, we haven't had a significant uptick in measles cases in better than 20 years, and even that uptick didn't approach the uptick ten years earlier, which didn't approach the standard rates of measles pre-vaccine.

Note that measles seems to have a deathrate (in the developed world, in the last 50 years - it was much higher before that) of So, who is the real idiot? Someone who gets excited about a disease that is largely a non-issue, or someone who realizes that your chances of getting killed on the highway are higher than your chances of dying of the measles, with or without vaccine?

Interesting theory you have.

So, I gather from your comment that you know that the measles vaccine has about a 2.9% failure rate, that the US average immunization rate is 94.7% (ignoring the failure rate), for an effective immunization rate of 92.0%....

I also assume that you know that herd immunity is established at 90%+?

Likewise, I'll assume you know that even 100% immunization will still leave ~10 million people susceptible to measles in the US (that 2.9% failure rate isn't going to go away).

And I'll further assume that you think that when we enforce mandatory immunization and reach that rockhard MINIMUM of 10 million susceptible people that we'll never, ever have a year when 147 people get sick, right?

Oh, have I managed to hint strongly enough that you're completely innumerate yet? It's not hard to come up with the numbers, and calculator programs make it pretty easy to put real numbers on things if you're capable of thinking that way.

Conclusion: by the standards of epidemiologists, we're already pretty much safe from measles, and increasing the uptake rate of the vaccine will have minimal effect on measles outbreaks in the US.

Oh, an interesting bit I noticed back when this outbreak first occurred is that the fatality rate of measles decline precipitously about thirty years before measles vaccines became standard. No idea why, but we didn't even bother making measles vaccine "mandatory" (to the extent that it is already mandatory) till a generation after measles had declined into a non-issue. And the death rates for measles (in terms of deaths per measles case, NOT deaths per population) has hardly changed since the introduction of the vaccine....

Comparing the 147 who got infected to the entire population of the US is disingenuous and you know

How about if we compare it to the population of CA alone? That would make it 147 cases out of 39 million people. Still hardly a disaster of monumental proportions.

What matters is that a significant number of children were infected by a deadly disease.

Significant? Absolute worst case (the measles outbreak covered States having over half the US population, so the 39 million in CA will show a maximum infection rate of 3.75 per million (when you include the populations of all the States that got one or more measles cases, it's close to 1 per million).

Sorry, I can't see one chance in a million as "significant".

This time around, everyone was safe and nothing bad happened. How many times do you want to roll the wheel of fortune?

You'd almost think that getting the measles vaccine would eliminate measles cases. If you didn't know better. Failure rate of the vaccine is over 2%. Which means that the 0.0001% of people who actually got measles this year in the US were a teeny, tiny fraction of those who could have gotten the measles, EVEN IF EVERYONE WERE VACCINATED.

A brave new world indeed.

So by your own standards you must throw out virtually every claim of harassment and victimhood.

First off not only is there actual evidence, it's objectively a fact that she perjured herself.

Second what happened to "listen and believe" with victims of abuse? The "reviews" thing is a semantic straw man invented by people defending her. It's been repeatedly proven that she did in fact receive positive coverage from Grayson, preferential treatment from Arnott, and that's not even counting the obscene double standard of everyone leaping to defend a domestic abuser.

The only person throwing around false allegations is Zoe Quinn herself, as per the evidence provided by Nasrallah, the wizardchan hate campaign, and her working with the GNAA to pay people to astroturf.

Were you aware that nobody commenting on syntax or grammar has EVER contributed anything of use to any conversation that wasn't a conversation ABOUT syntax or grammar?

Didn't bother to check the comment you're responding to (it's below my filter level), but I'm assuming it's your illiterate use of "tow the line" that caused it.

Are YOU aware that when you can't spell, it's pretty much automatic to assume you can't think very well either? After all, you're using words you don't even understand, or you wouldn't have mispelled it. Yeah, using words you don't understand is clear proof of your superior reasoning powers, eh?

Hmm, remember the measles outbreak earlier this year?

Remember how many children died during the outbreak?

Remember how many people got measles in spite of their vaccinations?

Wait, never mind, the 147 people out of 330 MILLION who got measles included noone who had gotten the vaccine, and NOONE died.

Since far more people died on the highways during that measles outbreak than even got measles, much less died of it, I suspect strongly that we could find better things to do than waste time fighting over this in the courts.

And yes, this will be fought over in court. All the way to the Supreme Court...and end up costing CA far more (even if they win) then the measles outbreak cost them....

Completely and utterly wrong! The DAB network covers 99,5% of Norway! It's an improvement over the FM network's coverage. Norway is a very long and mountainous country, it's difficult to achieve the same percentage with FM. The people running the network have people driving around the country to check the reception.