Pft. Their attempts at inserting additional market forces worked SOOO well.

And there is no market force from the consumers. They have no choice about where their power comes from. There are natural monopolies at play. The only thing they can do is complain. That's a political force, not a market force.

Your complaint isn't warranted. AmiMoJo pointed out that the goal in capitalism is to win your market. He said nothing about government control or any of your -isms.

You seem to be assuming that "monopoly" instantly means "government control". Which makes sense, really. Once companies win their market, then there's usually abuse. You know, otherwise known as "making money". With that abuse comes the cries of the consumers, and since we live in a self-balancing democracy, down comes the regulation that tries to keep the abuse to a minimum.

And honestly, the above post:

That's not warranted either. Even with a monopoly (and no competition driving cost down) you'll still find companies skimping on maintenance because that makes them more money in the short term.

The question would be where are they and where are they going?

You could probably achieve some meaningful dilation if you orbited a black hole or something. But other than that, presumably the society that can hop around the galaxy still wants to have something to go to. And those locations would experience just as much time as the rest of us. Not that we all experience the same amount. Whole sections of the universe travel at different speeds and times. Like, you know how galaxies are accelerating away from the origin? Yeah, some are moving faster than others. And consequently experience different time dilatation. Dunno what sort of ranges we're talking about. Even at 90% lightspeed, you're only looking at a 1:7 ratio. A 142,000 years as opposed to a million years is still a society-crushing amount of time.

I'm not sure why you'd want to have a space-faring society that was rushing as fast as they could towards the heat-death of the universe. I guess some people would want to wait and see if anything interesting happened.

Well for the first few hundred million years there's zero metal. Anything* other than hydrogen and helium are only made during a sun exploding. And the quickest dying, hottest stars last hundreds of millions of years. In general, as time goes on, more suns explode making more and more exotic elements like... you know.... carbon and gold.

*HEY, I'm getting some of that wrong. Turns out elements up to boron could be made by cosmic rays. And gold can only be made in a super-nova. Huh.
This wikipedia page about the origins of the elements is really nifty.

What? Why is that understandable? You could say that it's understandable that waiters have an us-vs-them worldview. Or IT support. Or musicians. Or doctors. Or ANY group of people that interacts with anyone else in a professional capacity. And all of it is bullshit tribalism that makes for shitty services.

Hell, I'm a pasty-ass cracker from upper-middle society and I distrust the police. I know that I can afford a lawyer that means a whole swath of laws actually apply to the police during their interactions with me, but things like civil forfeiture, swatting, and local events give me good reason to distrust the cops. The complain that this teaches children to fear and avoid cops might be accurate, in all ways.

Now it's not like all cops are bad cops. It only takes one rotten apple to poison a department though, and they seem to have a culture of looking after their own. So if one screws up, the rest will cover for him. Because hey, for most of them it's just a job. Something they go into in the morning, and leave at night. They want to retire eventually. And they don't want to rock the boat. And now you have a perfectly reasonable guy who suspects that O'maley down the hall got into the evidence locker when his buddy punched that guy, but doesn't really have any proof, and sure as shit isn't going to rat on his co-worker, and generally just goes along with the flow.

Well, with enough crossbreeding, it's a possibility. We'd just need more gay black Mexicans and other interesting mixes.

Not distrustful, but fearful? You're telling people to fear scientists looking for grants. (and coaching it with "but oh, hey, I never said DISTRUSTFUL, pft). This is EXACTLY the sort of thing that boristdog talking about. Let me guess, you think the climate change scientists are doing it for the money. The EPA is controlled by rent-seeker under guise of environmentalism. That the people brow-bashing the anti-vacciers probably own stock in bigPharma. Are these the sort of things you think to yourself when you hear about scientists doing their job. Oh, but there really are not "true" scientists, just lobbyists wearing science skins.

Hey, you're main argument is correct though. We SHOULD come at science, all of it, with a healthy amount of skepticism. From scientists claims, to papers, to proposals, all of it. The correct response is; "prove it". And oh look, there's the proof. Bravo.

But your title, your snide comments, and your history of posts sadly fall into an anti-intellectual stereotype.

What? No, the military industrial complex as a whole understands that academics don't like autonomous kill bots. They just don't care.

Take the MQ-1 Predator. Built by a team of engineers of all sorts of disciplines. 6,000 employees in San Diego. For most it's probably just a job. They might even agree and sympathize with the academics. Doesn't mean they're going to stop going to work. GA's CEO Neal Blue.... looks to be a pretty hard-core conservative, so maybe he doesn't understand what the academics are getting at. But with that much money you'd hope he's at least a little smart. He's going to keep making things that are price-competitive with the capabilities he can talk someone in congress or the pentagon into wanting. A PR officer from the Airforce that buys these things is going to point out that it's their major function and reason for existing. It literally IS the nature of the airforce to make decisions about who to go kill. The colonels and generals might even prefer if they could actually codify the rules of engagement into a robot rather than training a pilot.

And if it will mean more employment, more sales, better capabilities in low-connectivity theaters, and better or equivalent adherence to the rules of engagement, then these people are going to make an autonomous version of the Predator. You could sit these people down with the authors of this paper, have it fully explained, and the AutoPred would still be made, sold, bought, and used.

Besides, perfect is the enemy of good.

...huh. That'd be to distrust scorpions and not give free rides. Which makes sense.

Wow, that's a really convoluted path they take to get to "we don't like autonomous kill bots".
Hey, that's great and everything. Very noble of you. I'm sure people like you also lamented the invention of repeating rifles, the air force, and ICBMs. But it REALLY doesn't change much of anything. An academic paper on how killing is, like, BAD duuuuuude, just doesn't impact the people wanting, making, buying, selling, or using these these things.

Let me put it this way: You can tell the scorpion not to sting you. You can reason with it to the moon and back. But that fucker's going to sting you because it's in his nature. And he doesn't give a shit about reason.

Sure, a lot of programmers don't need to be referred to as engineers. Because they're not engineers. Software engineers, the sort that do less programming and more engineering work (which is, sadly, mostly paperwork) should be refereed to as engineers because that's what they are.

A lot of programmers do a lot of architect work. If it's a big enough code-shop or a project, then there may even be people who don't do much programming anymore and focus on the architecture rather than the codebase. Not that I've ever seen that personally, but it exists in theory. And there are OH GOD SO MANY programmers that cannot be trusted to perform any architecture work, and generally have trouble building things from scratch.

DevOps are programmers that also answer the phone and generally know the IT side.

Testers are trained monkeys while test engineers are an entirely different beast who specialize not in writing code, but in breaking it. Some of those people are called SWQA, but they're not to be confused with the sort that only file DO-178 audits.

It'd be awfully nice if everyone could agree on these terms, and be more or less consistent, but sadly the entire field isn't a century old and there are plenty of growing pains.

As did PDAs like the Newton and the Palm Pilot, and yet hand-held personal computers didn't really become ubiquitous and the craze for apps developers didn't begin until after 2000 and smartphones were a thing.

I'm not confused, I just know the difference between something being invented and becoming widespread.

If you were an early adopter, props to you for being on the ball and identifying a better way of doing things. You helped steer the masses towards the light.

Hey now, while certainly a buzz word, it wasn't meaningless.
Where before you had sites that delivered content to the masses, the web 2.0 craze was to allow user input. Accounts, logins, uploaded content and data. Like wikipedia, right? That interaction with the users, and content created by the users was the basis of the whole shindig. It was a neat and exciting change, and the talking heads and venture capitalists nearly had an stroke raving about it and certainly talked it up.

But it was a real thing.

Now a days we just take it for granted.

That coward can't be job hunting all that hard if he never sent me a resume. Or hey, maybe just just finally stopped browsing slashdot and got back to work.

Nothing. It's really not that special at all. And hence I don't think we should have special laws criminalizing it nor treat gay couples any differently then non-gay couples.

Same thing with black people. Remember all those special laws we had about black people?

Geeze man, part of explaining something is knowing your audience.
What part of "1-pbinom(38,54,.50)" didn't you get? Do you even know where you are?
~halfSarcasm