Fat triggers satiety like nothing else does, trust me. There are times when I have so much fat in my bowl that it takes me half an hour to finish the last three spoonfuls of mostly fat/oil with a smattering of veggies. I should probably stop eating at that point but I make up for it by going to bed later.

You misread Obfuscant's statement, he was stating they are equivalent.

No, it does not, heart and circulatory issues arise due to inflammation which is now believed to be caused by inflammation. Many people are intolerant to grains, so the culprit is likely to be grains and carbs.

Friend Jedidiah, I am disappointed at this statement. Fat is what you need, it is your lifesource, we are not made to pull energy from weeds and carbs are not that healthy for us. We also can't take a diet heavy in protein as our digestive system isn't built for that either (see rabbit starvation). Thus we are left with fat as our most valuable and viable energy source. Protein is needed as a building block and some veggies are probably good too. We definitely don't need sugar in the diet as we can create our own through gluconeogenesis.

The problem with drinking between each bite is that it lowers the strength of your digestive juices by diluting them. It is best to not drink for about a half hour before eating and about three hours after. See the books by Dr. Batmangelidj for explanation of this and other benefits of water.

I also don't find it funny, I find it sad though and wish I could offer to help without them offering to separate my head from my body.

I agree with you that fats/oils should be increased, of course they have to be the healthy oils not things like corn, rice, canola oils. What part of my calorie "math" did you disagree with?

According to this chart, not a lot of difference my rotund friend:
https://www.usaemergencysupply...

Here are some more comparisons, not a lot of difference between whole wheat bread and refined as you will notice. Like I said, some extra nutrients but still all the carbs:
http://www.health.harvard.edu/...
From your oh-so-trustworthy friends at the grain council
http://wholegrainscouncil.org/...

Nutrition is only a hobby for me. I happen to be quite non-fat thank you very much.
The bottom line is that eating carbs is eating carbs whether they are whole grain or refined they still metabolize into sugars and you will bonk when eating them, you maybe will just experience a more refined rush from whole grains. Since you seem to think you have your stuff together, how come it hasn't worked for you?

Really? Some fat guy with high cholesterol, a non-functioning penis, out of breath from walking from his car to McDonalds looks happier than the 82 year old who has a fully functioning body and still wears out his old lady? Besides, he's likely to die instead while running outside on a bright sunshiny day or harvesting in his garden. Even if he is in the gym, he died while doing what he wanted to do and outlived the 65 year old fattie by almost 20 years, win!

A banana has 14 grams of sugar, 10 non-sugar carbs
3 Strawberries have 2 grams of sugar

A teaspoon of sugar weighs 4 grams.

This means that your "nutritious" smoothie has the equivalent of 4 teaspoons of sugar, so I am not sure that you have a full grasp on the nutrition aspect. But I do think your heart is in the right place so kudos for that. I would replace the banana with two oz of olive oil which would give you about 500 calories of long lasting energy, not the quick to bonk rush that sugar does. Any natural oil should work (avocado, coconut, walnut, etc).

whole grains are starchy bud so I am not sure what you changed other than probably cut down protein. The only difference between a whole grain and a refined one is a bit of fiber and some vitamins and minerals. Still a boatload of starch, thus your continued plumpness.

It's not that hard, just weigh everything as you are putting it in. Chances are you are using the same ingredients over and over and all you need is a list of the calories, fat, carbs in those ingredients and with how much is in a pot and how much you consume, it should not be hard to figure out. This is slashdot so I assume we can all do basic math.

Damn it! I live in Los Angeles, I wasn't aware of this disaster zone. Thanks!

Viol8, hmm, you seem so much more mature than I am, I like the nick it screams maturity and civility. Like your non-arguments do. How about you attempt to field an argument yourself? I'm feeling that our conversation has grown increasingly one-sided not to mention hostile. I might suggest places to look for your violin but won't as that might encourage some of your less savory addictions.

yup