## Comment Re:Gratis but not free (Score 1) 53

We have always been at war with Eastasia. Empowering always means binding and restricting in Corporatespeak.

Yeah, but it is empowering.

In the real world "Common Core" is more than "Common Standards". It is sold as a parcel. Don't be such a pedant.

Example: http://www.corestandards.org/M...

Example: http://www.corestandards.org/M...

Well guess what? The "institutional knowledge" that parents have WAS NOT WORKING. Education was been going downhill, especially in Math. Sorry you have to learn something new, but we need to try something different and move on. I am glad kids are seeking out tutors and Kumon. They probably need it if they aren't learning the basics in school. It isn't a failure of Common Core. It is just some kids are slower learners.

Guys we get it: you are all special flowers with a high ability for math. This does not apply to 99.9999% of the population. You are probably autistic. What Common Core addresses is the 99.9999% of the population who are not like you.

Oh yeah. You sound normal. Give me a break. 5+7 is 12 because you have the sets {(1,4),(2,3)} and {(1,9),(2,8),(3,7),(4,6)} memorized? You can't even explain what you are doing to me. What in the sets makes 5+7=12? You expect kids to understand that?

They don't teach math like that anymore. Math is still a chore for most people. There are the 0.1% of people who actually enjoy math "discovery", and they all read Slashdot.

I was talking about the "New Math" that was taught in the late 1970s/early 80s. Sets. Venn Diagrams. We always called it "New Math" but maybe it had some other term at that point. Whatever you call it, it was ineffective as that time period had the worst outcome for students.

What is the deal with the "I live in Seattle and have slow internet" AC's? I live in Seattle and have 1 Gb fiber.

Well they aren't doing memorization without context in Common Core so I don't know what your point is. In fact they apply it to real life examples, like timelines in History, etc.

Actually probably the issue is that Common Core is exposing that kids aren't learning it, so they need extra help. Nothing wrong with that. Previously you had no idea who was learning and who wasn't. Parents bitch because they don't understand it, and haven't bothered to research it.

Yeah, sorry. Math isn't fun for 99.99% of people. You just think it is fun for yourself and you don't understand that other people don't find it fun. It doesn't mean you shouldn't learn it.

OK great. So stop being lazy and click on the link. I can't discuss anything with someone who is ignorant of the basics.

How would he know which technique is the proper one to use on a problem unless you knew all the techniques available? You don't use the same technique on every problem. It is the techniques that are being taught. Depending on the complexity of the problem being solved you may switch between techniques. That is the entire basis of the idea.

I disagree. In fact had the opposite effect: New Math as taught in the late 1970s/early 1980s was unsuccessful in teaching pre-college math. By replacing basic Math education like algebra/geometry with the screwed up "New Math" they ruined math for those of us who actually had to take it in college for engineering. You can't learn Calculus without a solid understanding of Algebra and Geometry. New Math didn't teach what we needed to know to be successful in college math. It also presumably failed those who just needed to learn basic Math, like computing tips.

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