The problem here is that any argument (I hesitate to call it debate or even discussion) involving evolution vs creation is that it immediately degrades into an "us" vs "them" fight.
To the hardcore evolutionists, all creationists get lumped together. It doesn't matter if their stance is "I don't think the big bang was an accident" or "the Bible says the Earth is 4000 years old, so that's how old the Earth is". You're a superstitious and mentally deficient nutjob who is at best to be ignored and at worst should be sterilized and exiled.
The converse also occurs. To a fundamentalist creationist, anyone ranging from "I could see how evolution might account for certain things" to "evolution is the correct and only possible explanation" is a godless empty shell of a human who at best should be shunned and at worst should be burned at the stake.
Modern science is built around the idea that you can never actually prove a theory, only disprove it and build a better theory. When you stop trying to disprove your models and accept them as truth, you stop being a scientist and step into the realm of faith.
It's been my experience that fights are not between scientists and zealots; they are between zealots and other zealots.
I'm now using opera. I think I like it better anyway.
I don't care how fixed they say it is. They broke my trust, this app will never see my (or my friends') phones again.
And yet instead it spawned a pretty reasonable conversation. I don't see any name calling or other ad hominem in the ensuing thread (with the exception of my "clowns" comment). I see people on both sides making their points in a civil discourse of reasoning and anecdotes.
until these clowns are in charge of my health care. There's nothing bureaucracy can't screw up!
The best upgrade (defined in relation to what it replaced) I ever bought was my Soundscape Elite that I bought back in 1992. It was 1 step short of plugging a rackmount synth into the MIDI port of my computer. DOOM and Duke3D never sounded as good as they did on that card.
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles2005/2005721212041.asp
I remembered hearing about this a while ago and this story brought it back to the front of my mind. Interesting if not surprising.
The best things in life go on sale sooner or later.