Offering up a competition to do this is not the way to go. Why? Because a JPL designed approach was already offered up and this is why we are looking at $8-11B to deliver in 15 years.

Need a prize approach in a set of objectives are listed and variable-level prize rewarded based on ranking. Get it done first, and you get $$$, with second getting $. Finally, upon successful return of Up to 1/2 of the samples, they get $ 3B/1B. Finally, limit this to 2-3 groups register for this.

With this approach, it will likely have SX and BO as entities, but it may also produce a 3rd group. This way, a great deal of infrastructure gets quickly developed and will be reused later for Martian/lunar/asteroids missions.

Hopefully, no federal $ is going into this. Or perhaps federals SHOULD produce some $, but require that all of the cells be made in america, with american, if not western elements.

Seriously, some of it, esp. the early stuff is interesting. A lot of words, poetry. Now? Just junk with a lot of cuss words esp the n-word, and is just garbage.

It used to be that we were full of hope, but prepared for the worst. Now, we have a generation that is afraid of everything and prepares for nothing.

Ownership of media was limited BEFORE 1995?6?( give or take ). Before Clinton and GOP pushed a re-write on media ownership, we had some 50-100 companies that owned media (and that was LONG before the explosion with the Internet).IOW, we had competition. Now? Less than 10 companies own American media ( may be 5, I do not recall ).

If we return back to requiring limited ownership (as in how much someone can own), then we would see competition and would see decent media. As it is, we are as bad as China and Russia.

It is LONG past time for us to be able to SUE companies for this, AND to have criminal investigations against the C*O of companies that are breached. Why? Because they are not doing what is needed to protect this data. It is really not that hard to do.

Roll back the Clinton/GOp bill that limited ownership.there is no real competition and all of the majors are as horrible as China daily and RT. Hell, MOST of Aljazerra is better than the trash from America, China, and Russia.

This might be what is needed for the prince to realize that it is better to think long-term for his citizens as opposed to killing short-term critics. IOW, learn from his recent ancestors.

If so, then it Trump will push this in America if he is elected.

Exactly. If it is outside, it is public. This kind of story is just more BS.

ROFL.
That is why MB and BMW are outselling Tesla. Oh yeah.

Yeah, that is why BMW and MB are outselling Tesla by HUGE numbers. Shesh. Right now, the ONLY interesting Germany EV is the taycan. The rest is expensive POS.

You missed the point in that Tesla did NOT promise or say that this is what the system will do all over. It was showing what 1 situation was doing. The training made perfect sense. Why? Because it is a NEURAL NET. These require training over and over on the same route, which is why it is important to have such large data quantities. The ONLY thing that is wrong is when Elon says that all of the hardware is there. Obviously if ppl THINK about it, they would realize that only the front camera has a wiper. As such, precipitation becomes the main issue. Likewise, so does blinding sun. So NO, the 2017 was not wrong. Only ppl making up BS about it. And as to when this will be ready? When you see an EV deal with the precipitation issue (laser, etc), THEN you know that things are close. Until then, we are still off (and as I said, Elon's timelines have never been there). In the meantime, FSD remains safer than regular human drivers.

You mean this?
Apparently, you do not have decent memory or like always, you see things negatively on everything except for China.